tcode1568908558 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Tested the limit of the hydro lifters on my engine. After short reving at 7200 rpm's two hydro valve lifters started to knock on idle for about 5 mins. After that period they settled back to normal. So, basically that means 7000 rpm should be a kind of safe limit.Now, I spoke to Andy who suggested me to swap hydro lifters with mech ones. According to him it can be done on this head I currently have (a head with hydro lifters), keeping both head and cams. Does anyone did this conversion with success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpis Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 tcode wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 01:02Now, I spoke to Andy who suggested me to swap hydro lifters with mech ones. According to him it can be done on this head I currently have (a head with hydro lifters), keeping both head and cams. Does anyone did this conversion with success?Yes it can be done... byt why?16 lifters cost the same as a complete head of a N/A ph2. you will gain larger ports, larger valves hotter cams and not the least the cams are already adjusted and you don't have to spend half a day messuring and adjusting the gaps between cam and lifter. just buy my aluminum retainers specially developed for the 6mm valves, they will fit Volvo 850 springs (or even your stock ph1 springs) which will allow 8000rpm or so. then fit an inner spring and you can rev 10000rpm or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 torpis wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 11:27Yes it can be done... byt why?16 lifters cost the same as a complete head of a N/A ph2. you will gain larger ports, larger valves hotter cams and not the least the cams are already adjusted and you don't have to spend half a day messuring and adjusting the gaps between cam and lifter. just buy my aluminum retainers specially developed for the 6mm valves, they will fit Volvo 850 springs (or even your stock ph1 springs) which will allow 8000rpm or so. then fit an inner spring and you can rev 10000rpm or so I already have 16 mech valve lifters, so most of them probably could be used - meaning don't need to buy all sixteen. Plus, I don't need to take off the head form the engine - meaning I don't need to pay for machine job of the head, I don't need to buy head gasket etc. Basically, all I need is (boring job) measuring the gaps and buy a few non matching lifters.Later, when I will be rebuilding the hole engine, will pay attention about the head too and probably do as you suggested . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpis Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Ah okey then just buy a bunch of lashcaps and put the lifters through the lathe to ge the right gaps. do it very carefully as you don't want it to rattle too much. but... if haveing the cams out needing to adjust the gap you could aswell regrind them too hihi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Tropis,if I buy n/a ph2 head, do I have to change valves, aren't valves for a turbo engines different (filled with some liquid for extra cooling)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpis Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 they are the same from what i know. most of the cooling of the valve is through the disk it self when the valve is closed. We usually cut new fresh surfaces on the valve seat useing a Mira tool to get a good seal and good heat transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobman Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 hey tcode and torpisdo you guys happen to have the ECU wire diagrams and color chart etc? I have bought a AEM FIC (fuel ignition and timing controller) and need to intercept a bunch of ECU wires including the injector wires, MAP/MAF, o2 wires and bunch more. Can any of you high performance Gods help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Here you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobman Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 tcode wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 03:05Here you go.wow alright first off thanks man but i am no electrician and it seems everything in here is coded?? Where are injector cables? etc? I am totally confused. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbovine Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 This should help, it's a list of all the component codes. Everything else is standard electrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sute1568908560 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 torpis wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 02:27tcode wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 01:02Now, I spoke to Andy who suggested me to swap hydro lifters with mech ones. According to him it can be done on this head I currently have (a head with hydro lifters), keeping both head and cams. Does anyone did this conversion with success?Yes it can be done... byt why?16 lifters cost the same as a complete head of a N/A ph2. you will gain larger ports, larger valves hotter cams and not the least the cams are already adjusted and you don't have to spend half a day messuring and adjusting the gaps between cam and lifter. just buy my aluminum retainers specially developed for the 6mm valves, they will fit Volvo 850 springs (or even your stock ph1 springs) which will allow 8000rpm or so. then fit an inner spring and you can rev 10000rpm or so What is the size for N/A ph2 valves (in / out). Is N/A ph2 head with mechanical lifters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpis Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Sute wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 03:12Is N/A ph2 head with mechanical lifters? Yes 2000-> mech = good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WernerT4 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 So a 2000-2004 T4 head comes with mechanical lifters and it will fit on my 98 T4 without any changes? Is it true that the sump (oil pan) O-rings can cause hydrualic lifters to start knocking? Is this a common problem? My lifters are knocking like crazy after 1 minute on startup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpis Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 WernerT4 wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 08:11So a 2000-2004 T4 head comes with mechanical lifters and it will fit on my 98 T4 without any changes? Is it true that the sump (oil pan) O-rings can cause hydrualic lifters to start knocking? Is this a common problem? My lifters are knocking like crazy after 1 minute on startup I already tried to help you in this problem... if you engine still is ratteling start a thread about it and I'm sure people will help you. Also a ratteling head is not a Big Project and not about tcode's engine build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sute1568908560 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 torpis wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 06:10Sute wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 03:12Is N/A ph2 head with mechanical lifters? Yes 2000-> mech = goodYeah! What about the valve size then? Diameter in / out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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