AReed67 Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 [calls dealer to check up on this]I just called my local Austin, TX dealer. The software is free (first time they've ever told me that about any service. . . she had to double check her forms). I'm set up to do it tomorrow morning, so I'll let you guys know!I'm running stock so I don't forsee complications, but it will be nice to have a working ETM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the underlørd Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 don't think this is the fix for the problem guys. this is just new software... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastboy Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 don't think this is the fix for the problem guys. this is just new software...it does do a pretty good job of fooling the cem into thinking all is well wityh the TB though... we have had only one car respond very poorly to the upgrade...that was not a good day. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrigo Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 don't think this is the fix for the problem guys. this is just new software...that is correct. the ETM's still suck, so keep $1000 in you glove box for that tow truck if youre far from home.this software just makes it updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripp Mcnealy Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 it does do a pretty good job of fooling the cem into thinking all is well wityh the TB though... we have had only one car respond very poorly to the upgrade...that was not a good day. What kind of car was it? And did it have any mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SagaPer Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi all you Volvo-fans over there.When tuning my V70 1999 R AWD I choosed the BSR PPC solution, which is a software based "box with a cable" which you plug into the datainterface of your car. Check out http://www.bsrab.se. Look for the PPC pages.Picture of the PPC unit: http://www.bsrab.se/bilder/_/x680y480_503000.jpgTo chip your car takea about 3 minutes. The PPC box stores your original program from car and updates the ECU with the tuning program. My car now runs 300 Bhp. It's like driving a wild bull...Be aware that the Cruise Control will be a bit rough in the speed range 0-80 Km/h (55 Mp/h).Everytime Volvo updates software for your car the BSR company sends you an email and tells you that you have to download (from Internet) a new software into the PPC box (which is connected to your computer by USB-cable).You can drive "unchipped" in wintertime and "chipped" in the summertime.The price I paid through a local dealer in Norway was approx. 1.200 dollars.It's easy, and I love it... I also drive with JR Sportsfilter (http://www.jrfilters.fr/index.php?lng=en) and Twin Pipe exhaust from SAM (Sam Steffansson - http://www.samsteffansson.se/samindex.html). The JR Sport Airfilter gives you a more rough sound in front of the car and the SAM Twin Pipe Exhaust gives the car a good and rumbling sound from outside (rear end).Pictures of car:1. www.buz.no/per/Volvo_V70_R_AWD_Per_Lund_800px.jpg2. www.buz.no/per/v70r_1999_sam_dobbel_eksos_650px.jpg3. www.buz.no/per/v70r_1999_xc_grill_650px.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastboy Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 What kind of car was it? And did it have any mods?BONE STOCK 01 V70.... it fried the CEM.... but there were other issues surrounding the download that could have been the cause... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeInJapan Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Good solution! Because I'm thinking that without what you have (the BSR kit), these guys that are rushing to the dealer with their chipped ECU's to have the new ETM upgrade done and then rushing back to their chip tuning company to have their chip reflashed again are "doing" and then "undoing" everything over and over again... a real waste of time. What needs to happen here is for UPsolute, IPD or anyother company involved to "incorporate" the new Volvo software into their re-flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cRRRRazy Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 so is the ETM flash free for all vehicles? I contacted the local dealer and they said that there is a recall on the ECM for a program upgrade and not the ETM. they told me that they can do it (the ETM) but they will charge me for it???does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeInJapan Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Yep....they have to prove to themselves that your ETM is foooobarred before they'll replace it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfish Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 what cars is this ETM upgrade available for? Also, is there maybe like an official Volvo website that explains what is up with the ETM, and what they are changing?They are changing the software to allow easier technician diagnosis of ETM fault code problems by having the system differentiate between real faults and electrical glitches. Don't confuse this with a performance upgrade that the driver will notice on a car that is not experiencing a problem. They did talk about this software reducing idle fluctuations due to a dirt build up on the throttle. Any other changes in operation of the car may be due to having the car's computers reset their adaptives after downloading. Still this is a worthwile update and is recommended. Volvo will notify their owners who are affected by this recall 155 by letter during the first and second quarter of 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AReed67 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Ok here are the results of my ETM upgrade. Dealership found it wasn't throwing error codes, so they only did the software upgrade. Service manager noted that the idle would increase, but otherwise there shouldn't be a big difference.I'm not sure if it came with the new ETM software, or the fact that the ECU had to be reset to install it. . . but the car shifts completely differnetly now. MUCH smoother shifting. There is also a little more pull at mid/high rpms, which I was missing with the smaller turbo.Biggest different is just how smooth it shifts, or less loss of speed when coasting. Before the upgrade, it's as if it had a rev limiter set too low -- you'd pass someone on the highway and as soon as you took your foot off the gas, you'd drop 10-15 mph as if you were hitting the brake.I can definitely tell that the idle has increased. Unfortunately I didn't note what usually idled at before the service, however, there is a hill that I drive twice a day both ways to and from work/lunch. When stopped, letting off the brake would normally cause me to very slowly drift backwards. Now, the car slowly climbs forward.And before somebody calls it -- this is a very noticeable difference with my car, not placebo effect -- I may have had other issues that other owners that were resolved by the ECU reset alone, but either way I'm extremely happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 They are changing the software to allow easier technician diagnosis of ETM fault code problems by having the system differentiate between real faults and electrical glitches. Don't confuse this with a performance upgrade that the driver will notice on a car that is not experiencing a problem. They did talk about this software reducing idle fluctuations due to a dirt build up on the throttle. Any other changes in operation of the car may be due to having the car's computers reset their adaptives after downloading. Still this is a worthwile update and is recommended. Volvo will notify their owners who are affected by this recall 155 by letter during the first and second quarter of 2006.Also while you are there it is HIGHLY recommended to have that stupid neutral control disabled (transmission shifts into N at a stop). What volvo won't tell you is that is hard on the transmission, causes lurching and rough takeoffs at every light that gets worse and worse and I don't need to tell you what eventually happens to the transmission. The neutral control was done strictly for emmissions purposes with no regard to the long term life of the transmission. What does Volvo care if the tranny decides to take a dump well after the warranty is up?And if you are questioning where I got this info, it's from a master Volvo mech with 35+ years of experience. He said every single car that comes in that needs a SEM or REM or other software update he recognizes that the ntutral control be done at that time too. And he's not saying it because he gets a free toaster for every 20 neutral control updates he sells. He is recommending it because he sees the effects of what it does first hand on a daily basis.Ok here are the results of my ETM upgrade. Dealership found it wasn't throwing error codes, so they only did the software upgrade. Service manager noted that the idle would increase, but otherwise there shouldn't be a big difference.I'm not sure if it came with the new ETM software, or the fact that the ECU had to be reset to install it. . . but the car shifts completely differnetly now. MUCH smoother shifting. There is also a little more pull at mid/high rpms, which I was missing with the smaller turbo.Biggest different is just how smooth it shifts, or less loss of speed when coasting. Before the upgrade, it's as if it had a rev limiter set too low -- you'd pass someone on the highway and as soon as you took your foot off the gas, you'd drop 10-15 mph as if you were hitting the brake.I can definitely tell that the idle has increased. Unfortunately I didn't note what usually idled at before the service, however, there is a hill that I drive twice a day both ways to and from work/lunch. When stopped, letting off the brake would normally cause me to very slowly drift backwards. Now, the car slowly climbs forward.And before somebody calls it -- this is a very noticeable difference with my car, not placebo effect -- I may have had other issues that other owners that were resolved by the ECU reset alone, but either way I'm extremely happy.That, my friend, is the neutral control disable update.The rolling backwards thing was because you were in neutral, which is gone now because that great "feature" has been disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AReed67 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 That, my friend, is the neutral control disable update.The rolling backwards thing was because you were in neutral, which is gone now because that great "feature" has been disabled.See, I asked the Svc Mgr about this, and he said that I did not have that update but he would recommend it. I let him know that I did not want to spend the $115 to do it just yet, and he didn't mention it when I picked up the car. I'd be extremely surprised if they tossed in ANYTHING for free (they even try to skip the free carwash sometimes, saying it's backed up). BUT, having said that, it does make a lot of sense.I wonder. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 See, I asked the Svc Mgr about this, and he said that I did not have that update but he would recommend it. I let him know that I did not want to spend the $115 to do it just yet, and he didn't mention it when I picked up the car. I'd be extremely surprised if they tossed in ANYTHING for free (they even try to skip the free carwash sometimes, saying it's backed up). BUT, having said that, it does make a lot of sense.I wonder. . .Yeam, they definitely won't do it for free. We can thanks VIDA for that. Anytime VIDA is hooked up and software is downloaded to your car from the server, the dealership ID and a whole bunch of other info is logged. The dealership automatically gets billed by Volvo each month for all of the software updates. The updates are only $32 I believe, but you have to pay labor too. Anyways, since the dealership gets charged no matter what, they aren't going to just give it away unless it's a warranty issue. Those days are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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