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You sould like you've lead a very interesting life, bet you can tell some good stories! :)

Ah, but they only have context for those who've been there, done that. Vietnam in the 50s, Africa and Beirut in the 60s, Saudi Arabia and Rhodesia in the 70s. I did the grand tour. There's a book somewhere, but I think it'd be awful boring compared to current events.

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Yup.  I notice Greenday, and Pink Flyod, and many others.  But at the same time I am not running out to send money.  I did not even see any donation boxes at these events.  It was a massive circle jerk for the stars.  Whats even funnier is they probably all wrote off their performances as a tax deduct to the tune of 6 figures.  Why is that funny?  Because the same money they want us to send is raised through tax.

I think you're right - they certainly could claim a charitable deduction especially if the organizing entity is a 501( c )3 charity (in the U.S.).

Performers got to promote their new whatever to 2 billion people (estimated audience). They were given no play but did get gift bags with $12K of stuff. Per IRS they'd have to declare that as a gift but probably a pittance compared with what they realized by doing a charitable deduction deal.

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Feel good socialism.

My Dad was Military Attache in the Belgian Congo in the early 60s. We watched SGT Joe Mobutu promote himself (over dead bodies) to COL and then President. He raped their 'constitution' and made himself "Presidente a Vie" (President for Life).

I returned to Africa in the late 70s and visited Rhodesia on a profesional tour. While I disagree w/ apartheid, it was obvious even then the Robert Mugabe was a thug with access to socialist media, who would make him look good. Look at Rhodesia now. South Africa is little better (and worse in may ways) than when apartheid first died in the 90s.

A shame: both countries are beautiful, and the silent majority are all kind and gracious, regardless of colour.

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Yet some progress exists - for example today although white households in Jo-burg still have multiple weaponry at hand, nearby in Pretoria lots of folks just have one pillow with a piece under it.

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There wasn't much pot smoking there but there was some drinking. It did bring the issue to the forefront of discussion among people who would have never known/cared about Africa.

I was in Africa 6 months ago and my stepfather has worked there for the past 4 years (about 6months/year) trying to develop better ways to procure and distribute medicine for anything from Malaria to HIV. The people are so impoverished and in need of outside help that it is gut wrenching to see.

A lot has changed since the 70s and 80s but still there is quite a ways to go. You are right, the corruption is rampant and there is a huge divide between those who have and those who have not.

It will not change without some sort of outside pressure. I'm not sure that Live 8 is going to solve anything and collecting money was not the major goal. The concert was free (except for the 1,000 or so reserved seats @ $18/ea). They accomplished what they set out to do, raise awareness. Now it is up to people to act on it.

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Mostly just a way for an over pampered superstar to make himself feel better. Now if he campaigned for asking our governments to lean on Africa to get rid of their massive corruption problems then I'd be all for it. You even have African people saying quit giving to their country because it is turning them into a welfare state. That and it just goes to the local dictator who takes it, spends it and keeps the people poor so that he can get more money in the future.

The American people have a large heart and love to give money. If only they realized that lots of times they are just pissing it down a hole and making some middle man rich without helping the problem.

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