Asinine Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Posted July 9, 2005 I'd say that nothing fox news says has any credibility, but they are a 'trusted' news source to a large (increasing) segment of the US population!That only adds credibility to the stereotype of American stupidity/ignorance!
JESSEXC Posted July 9, 2005 Report Posted July 9, 2005 I'd say that nothing fox news says has any credibility, but they are a 'trusted' news source to a large (increasing) segment of the US population!That only adds credibility to the stereotype of American stupidity/ignorance!← what, is you're special ed helmet on to tight? I think he's upset because in Can a duh this web site would also be in french.
Asinine Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Posted July 9, 2005 what, is you're special ed helmet on to tight? I think he's upset because in Can a duh this web site would also be in french.←well...1) you're wrong cause i'm in canada right now and this site is in english!?2) why would this website being only in english upset me?
S40Monster Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 haha.. that's classic.. and exactly why everyone hates americans!!!I think you're just pissy because almost certainly some American along the way has shoved his size 12 American boot up your jerk. I know I sure want to. Comparing America to Nazi Germany is wrong on so many levels. The fact is when you're a world superpower you can't just sit back and let the world walk all over you, it's not in the job description. And if Canada doesn't like it, well to say the least I don't see them stopping us.
zimmy77 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 I think you're just pissy because almost certainly some American along the way has shoved his size 12 American boot up your jerk. I know I sure want to. Comparing America to Nazi Germany is wrong on so many levels. The fact is when you're a world superpower you can't just sit back and let the world walk all over you, it's not in the job description. And if Canada doesn't like it, well to say the least I don't see them stopping us.←THANK YOU, my fellow AMERICAN! ...and Minnesotan!
fastboy Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 America= great people (majority)Canada= great people (majority)drop this alreday... some canadians suck, some americans suck that's just a stupid fact we all get to live with.... there are a lot of really shitty canadians out there, but the same with americans... so we are now even both countries contain people that suck... and there is nothing we can do about it.....
zimmy77 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 America= great people (majority)Canada= great people (majority)drop this alreday... some canadians suck, some americans suck that's just a stupid fact we all get to live with.... there are a lot of really shitty canadians out there, but the same with americans... so we are now even both countries contain people that suck... and there is nothing we can do about it.....←<willing to agree>
S40Monster Posted July 14, 2005 Report Posted July 14, 2005 This thread wasn't about conservatism vs liberalism it was about the general consensus that there's an anti-american outlook in Canada and vice versa. I wouldn't even have posted here if it wasn't for Asinine and his asinine comments about America and it's relation to Nazi Germany. Although I suppose we did invade our peaceful neighbor Canada much like Germany did Poland. Wait nevermind we're fighting TERRORISTS in Afghanistan, and the remnants of a genocidal dictatorship. Seriously who opposes these things, oh let the terrorists run free they've only knocked down two buildings. WTF! Oh leave the crazy man killing his own people and using international aid to build arms in power, he hasn't really hurt us any. WTF!
InlineTurbo Posted July 22, 2005 Report Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) Anybody who thinks Fox News is a republican/conservative propaganda channel has to work on their critical thinking skills. The media has been moving left since WWII and people have just been getting used to it. The old saying:"How do you cook a frog? Slowly", applies in this case. This isn't playing well with the ratings lately with the advent of "alternative" news sources. As such Fox decided to hedge their bet by getting commentators from both political stripes and some that are neutral. Turns out the commentators with the best ratings are conservative and they get more air time. Its called free market. Remember though that news itself should be neutral. It should not have a bent toward either party. However that isn't even remotely true. For example NY Times and CBS both caught making up news. The commentators can say whatever they want because they are commentators, but they should at least try to be truthful. However lots of them are just out to get people riled up like Begala and Carvile. There isn't much substance just trying to get people angry. Also there is Coulter and some others that attempt to do the same thing the other way.The reason Rush Limbaugh is so popular and so hated by liberals and Democrats is because he is a commentator ON the news. That and he actually backs up his claims with source material so you can check it out youself. That is he reports on their reporting. He points out their inconsistencies and attempts at sophistry. People like that because he points out stories that are complete bull and attempting to mislead people. Libs hate it because somebody is making them actually work at trying to fool people instead of just getting away with blaming the evil republicans, race baiting, scaring old people, ect.Personally I happend to like people like Tony Snow and Jerry Doyle because they are more like regular people that happen to think the media and the neo Democrats (because todays Democrats are very far left of John Kennedy) are going too far. They identify themselves as conservative, but are more concerned about common sense and their country doing well and not just US vs. Them politics. Anybody who spouts "Bush Lied", "Bush has no brain", ect. I'm not going to listen to because I know no rational discussion is going to come after. Conversely anybody who says things like "Hillary is a lesbian" or "Harry Potter is going to corrupt our kids" I'm not going to listen to either. There has to be some commons sense. Screw the politics and just do what is good for our country. Their are many good reasons for and against the Iraq war, health care, ect. They can be discussed civilly. Edited July 22, 2005 by InlineTurbo
ACBarnett Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 oh what happened to the good old conservatives such as nixon, reagan, and bush senior, who sought to implement good financially conservative policies without bowing to the religious wackos for votes. The "holier-than-thou" types just bother me because they are so contradictory and because people are so willing to listen to them. As bad as clinton's getting his hotdog sucked was, it's childish to equal it to jumping from excuse to excuse about why you started a war. The time for worrying about "morals" is after the bigger issues are dealt with. I also dislike the way our military actions have been run both in afghanistan and in iraq. If this was the 1980's, we would have been far more effective at arming and training the iraqi's and afghani's so as to cut down with the involvement of our troops, and we would also have had the good sense to rig the elections in iraq so that the sunni's stay in power, rather than the socially repressive shiites what we have handed the country over to, who will surely forge strong ties with iran. We also would have cracked down on musharraf and his dancing around the US and pretending to support us. What this country needs is financially conservative leadership with the chops to handle a military situation well with the minimal involvement of actual ground forces. Spare me the religious and "moral" BS, this country is and always was supposed to be a secular place of science and reason, but that doesen't mean it has to be a welfare state. Just as with our aid to africa, sometimes you need to pull the plug to kick-start people (or countries) into being truly self-sufficient. I also think we should get rid of the agricultural lobby and subsidies to american farmers, as it will help to make our agriculture far more competative, and it will also open the door to the kinds of agriculture-based economic development that africa and other parts of the third world need to gain that much-needed self-sufficiency. How's that for a set of political ideas unlike anyone else's?!?!?
Zulu Posted August 10, 2005 Report Posted August 10, 2005 Ummm, maybe you guys should turn off the television and start reading books on the topic that credible individuals...get more information out of that.
starfish Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) has anyone figured out that cable news in general is trash?←Try tuning in to FNC Special Report with Brit Hume. A great show all in all but the final 15 minute segment with the Fox All Stars is fascinating television. Charles Krauthammer is probably the best news commentator any any network show today. Also, don't confuse many of the other shows past the regular news time slots on Fox News Channel with real news reporting. After Brit's show, the rest of the programming is more entertainment than breaking news. Edited August 11, 2005 by starfish
prasamin Posted September 8, 2005 Report Posted September 8, 2005 i personally could care less about Canada, but you're right about Fox News' filthy broadcasting and partisan employees.
S60 R Posted September 12, 2005 Report Posted September 12, 2005 as an american, I am tired of "us" being chastized for actions in foreign affairs. everyone wants our help, wants our money, wants us to police and feed everyone. and what do we get for it? people whining that we didnt do enough, didnt help "them", didnt do it the way they wanted it done. forget it! do it yourselves! we should close down NATO (which we created), close down the United Nations (which we also created). you guys figure it out. and I may be arrogant in saying this, but america has prospered and given more back to EVERY nation in less time than Rome or any other great civilization has. This is in terms of economic wealth, inventions and innovations. and Darn right we are going to fight to protect our sovreignty. Darn right we are going to help people that help us. Even if it is with oil or what not. any person would. protect our livelyhood and our way of life... I'll stop with that and end with something ghetto..... "Dont hate the player, hate the game".←AMEN, couldn't agree more.
S60 R Posted September 12, 2005 Report Posted September 12, 2005 I don't know how off the mark Parish is with her comments. Sure on a literal level they don't represent all Canadians, but i think a large portion of our population doesn't like american culture, american tactics, americans bombing out soilders, their government, etc.I have yet to meet an American i don't like (individually), but on the whole, i really can't stand that culture of dominance and ignorance! I'm reading a Hitler biography right now, and the similaried between nazi imperialism and american imperialism are quite astonishing!←I never heard anything so asinine before..., you supposedly have this great sense of humor and like every American you met, but because you hate Fox News, and read one book, u compare the U.S. to nazis?!?!I never knew there was this hatred between Canadians and Americans. Thank you for pointing this out. Therefore, if "u people" can't stand our culture, STOP COMING DOWN HERE TO OUR AMUESEMENT PARKS, VACATION SPOTS, ETC, AND FIND THINGS TO DO IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET THE F*** OUT OF MY COUNTRY IF U PEOPLE HATE US...
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