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Schools have every right to impose dress codes and in fact should require uniforms. You are there to be educated not express yourself. Do that after the bell rings. Fine with me.

yea, except that freedom of expression applies everywhere, including school, and to everyone. the ONLY reasonable restrictions are profanity, sexual content, racist content, and drug/alcohol content. and what the hell is up with you? why do you care so much? here, let me fix you post:

I am an opinionated a$$hole who enjoys forcing my opinions on everyone else.
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yea, except that freedom of expression applies everywhere, including school, and to everyone. the ONLY reasonable restrictions are profanity, sexual content, racist content, and drug/alcohol content. and what the hell is up with you? why do you care so much? here, let me fix you post:

No, it doesn't. Where in the Constitution does it grant 'Freedom of Expression"?

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No, it doesn't. Where in the Constitution does it grant 'Freedom of Expression"?

Well then you might as well close your mouth now since accoriding to you you dont have a right to express yourself. So, please, take your advise, STOP TYPING THIS CRAP, thank you, have a nice day

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Well then you might as well close your mouth now since accoriding to you you dont have a right to express yourself. So, please, take your advise, STOP TYPING THIS CRAP, thank you, have a nice day

HHHHHIIIIIII Kuzia! Just as my life was getting sensible again.

It's called Freedom of Speech, barbarian. I am asking about the alleged Freedom of Expression.

Give it a try!

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HHHHHIIIIIII Kuzia! Just as my life was getting sensible again.

It's called Freedom of Speech, barbarian. I am asking about the alleged Freedom of Expression.

Give it a try!

Yee, was busy for a couple of days. You saying that freedom of expression is not in implied in the constituion. The rest of america and the supreme court would have to disagree.

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No, it doesn't. Where in the Constitution does it grant 'Freedom of Expression"?

wait are you kidding me?!

freedom of expression is granted within the 1st amendment

1st amendment doesnt stop at freedom of speech, or religion

it protects non vocal freedom of speech...now if you are a textualist to the constitution..then you would still believe in this right

Sit-Ins were nonvocal means of speech that were interpreted later as freedom of speech which has been called freedom of expression...just to let you know

have you read the 1st amendment recently?

haha im not actually mad...its right in there

and there are 2 precident cases

tinker v. des moine and hazlewood v. (i forget which state) school district

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wait are you kidding me?!

freedom of expression is granted within the 1st amendment

1st amendment doesnt stop at freedom of speech, or religion

it protects non vocal freedom of speech...now if you are a textualist to the constitution..then you would still believe in this right

Sit-Ins were nonvocal means of speech that were interpreted later as freedom of speech which has been called freedom of expression...just to let you know

have you read the 1st amendment recently?

haha im not actually mad...its right in there

and there are 2 precident cases

tinker v. des moine and hazlewood v. (i forget which state) school district

You are not free to go to school naked. You are not free to walk down the street naked. And I disagree it is implied. It is an extension of FoS. By not allowing you to go to the movies naked, your freedom of speech is not impuned, that is why Freedom of Expression is not carte-blanche(?)

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You are not free to go to school naked. You are not free to walk down the street naked. And I disagree it is implied. It is an extension of FoS. By not allowing you to go to the movies naked, your freedom of speech is not impuned, that is why Freedom of Expression is not carte-blanche(?)

Thats an obscenity...fyi going naked is not allowed

i will agree...plus it violates the schools right for a decent dress code

im not saying everything should be put in place and everything allowed...thats absurd

it does not materially and substantially disrupt the school day...therefore it should be allowed

i took it to my argumentation and debate teacher and my you and the law teacher for clarification and said since spirit week (showing class pride) is technically a school event...not the normal school day (although attendance is required and it is a commpletely school day just wearing different clothing) that the hazelwood case would apply saying that the school is allowed to use any sort of censorship at the descretion of the principle...

kind of a bogus thing that could be argued both ways....anyway...the point is that i wasnt like "I KNOW MY RIGHTS I CAN DO ANYTHING" i thought that it was a legitimate battle to be fought and that it should be surfaced

anyway....that kind of expression IS protected...but is easily disputed by both sides. im not asking to do wahtever i want...im simply requesting my rights and the clarification if i was wrong....

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  • 3 weeks later...

so it was pretty I'm dumb but i will be talking to the principle (and im not doing this just to do it, i believe stuff like this shouldnt happen in the future)

you might get a kick out of this....the admin is PISSED because they just found out what the homemade senior shirts last year said

"Seniors '05, were gunna shock the world"

and on the back it showed a hand in the "shocker" position

Sorry to point out but word editor PwneD J00, that time. And I think it is hysterical that the seniors had a shocker picture That is monkeyin' great.

Dont you get it? Everyone in HS thinks the world revolves around them.

About 4 years later they realize nobody gives a stuff. :lol:

I don't need four years after highschool to realize the world doesnt give a stuff whether I am dead in a gutter. I am a senior in high school, and I realize that I mean essentially nothing in the world. I don't care much about it either. But I still think that I should be able to wear whatever shirt I want in school so long as it's not offensive. They have no right to tell me I can't wear a shirt that is not offensive, and they had no right to tell that teacher to withdraw his business from you. He should be as mad as you guys.

I agree with Noah. So what if nobody cares? He cares, and its pretty rediculous for the school board to deny him the right to wear that shrit. Given, he's a minor and the rules are different when you are a minor, but that shirt was not offensive. I understand that the issue was a stupid thing to fight over, but that was his right as a citizen.

T-bone

Finally a voice of reason.

Fight the good fight man, just don't do anything too stupid. Don't make news headlines, doesn't look good to colleges.

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