trance42 Posted February 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I haven't ever gotten a group buy to gather but id be happy to do it if needed. I would think it would be very annoying to quaife if every one called but i will call Harley @ Quaife tomorrow and see what he sais. How do people usually organize group buys?OK.... lets get a list going. 1 ZuluKing 2 BREAKAWAY3 BSR rckt4 Project T-5R5 The Underlord6 Javadoc7 WhiteT58 VolvoFan 9 C70pusher10 jeremy11 Jross12 RS713 Trance42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Oh count me in for sure I really need this.Thanks,Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectT-5R Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 you made that list, but some of those people have automatics, I did not think this would work in an auto. Also it would be great if you head this up as a group buy. If you find out how many people we need and such. If the price is right you may be able to get jross and CJ to take part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadoc Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 you made that list, but some of those people have automatics, I did not think this would work in an auto. Also it would be great if you head this up as a group buy. If you find out how many people we need and such. If the price is right you may be able to get jross and CJ to take part I'd get one, even though I have an automatic right now. I WILL have a manual, sooner or later and I wouldn't be able to pass up a deal like this, it'd be low risk. I mean I could always sell it on VS. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Count me in. Also, check your PMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDELUNA Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Depending on the final cost, you can count me in too. God Bless :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahm00dy Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 besides being able to handle considerably more power... what would the use of this LSD be for someone who may not reach the power levels of needing it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 besides being able to handle considerably more power... what would the use of this LSD be for someone who may not reach the power levels of needing it..It's not going to change the capability of the M56 to handle power per say. What will be changing is the ability to get the power down to the ground. Instead of having one wheel let go and spin up, dumping your traction, you will be able to use both wheels more effectively in acceleration - vital in corner exits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spottieottie Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'd be down for one too! Add mee as long as it is sub 1100 range. Looks like we've got a great group buy list going on so far! Hopefully it will happen this time. Cross your fingers guys!! :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra_runner Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Anything for an M66??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don kalmar union Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Quaife have a UK declared retail price of £525 plus VAT and shipping for their torque biasing diff. for the M56 box.They have only ever made one batch for Autotech in Trollhaten, and have another batch for them planned for assembly in late March. They have also made a batch of their diffs. with slightly modified casing for Ford to fit in some developement Focus ST's with the newer M66 boxes. MY diff is also available with this machining to fit the M66 in both Volvo and Ford vehicles.The particular points to keep in mind with the Quaife type of lsd is that it causes the vehicle to loose all traction if one of the driven wheels lifts and, the unit is fitted 'for life' and is not rebuildable or adjustable in any way.The plate type diff. is fully rebuildable and adjustable in its action with some internal changes from parts kept in stock here in the UK. With a plate type diff. you retain traction when a wheel lifts. Torque biaising lsd's are not used in competition where there is a possibility of driven wheel lift.The very best price for my KU plate type diff. is arround the £700 figure net of UK VAT for shipment outside the EU, plus shipping. I would negotiate a discount for multiple orders.Regards, Don.Norchi.www.kalmar-union.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectT-5R Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 525 pounds = 911.6625 dollars700 pounds = 1215.55 dollarsI know I would still be very interested in the Quaife parts, no oversea shipping if we can get them from California. Also I think quaife was good for more power. And for most of us, power is more critical then wheel lift. Thanks for the contribution Don. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Quaife have a UK declared retail price of £525 plus VAT and shipping for their torque biasing diff. for the M56 box.They have only ever made one batch for Autotech in Trollhaten, and have another batch for them planned for assembly in late March. They have also made a batch of their diffs. with slightly modified casing for Ford to fit in some developement Focus ST's with the newer M66 boxes. MY diff is also available with this machining to fit the M66 in both Volvo and Ford vehicles.The particular points to keep in mind with the Quaife type of lsd is that it causes the vehicle to loose all traction if one of the driven wheels lifts and, the unit is fitted 'for life' and is not rebuildable or adjustable in any way.The plate type diff. is fully rebuildable and adjustable in its action with some internal changes from parts kept in stock here in the UK. With a plate type diff. you retain traction when a wheel lifts. Torque biaising lsd's are not used in competition where there is a possibility of driven wheel lift.The very best price for my KU plate type diff. is arround the £700 figure net of UK VAT for shipment outside the EU, plus shipping. I would negotiate a discount for multiple orders.Regards, Don.Norchi.www.kalmar-union.comDon - Any information on relative slip rates or losses from the two styles of LSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gioseppe Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 The particular points to keep in mind with the Quaife type of lsd is that it causes the vehicle to loose all traction if one of the driven wheels lifts and, the unit is fitted 'for life' and is not rebuildable or adjustable in any way.The plate type diff. is fully rebuildable and adjustable in its action with some internal changes from parts kept in stock here in the UK. With a plate type diff. you retain traction when a wheel lifts. Torque biaising lsd's are not used in competition where there is a possibility of driven wheel lift.but clutch type limited slip differentials wear out eventually (especially with harder driving).gear types, much like the quife and the detroit truetrac DON'T wear out, and are a better option. the only reason i would go with a clutch type is for cost.monkey rebuilding a clutch type in an m56 everytime. too much PITA.p.s. gear types WILL still spin that wheel with traction when the other one has none, that's why they were engineered that way. what's the point of getting an lsd over keeping the open diff if that wasn't true? a wheel on ice has the same amount of traction as one in the air, and it will still throw some power to the one that has traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT2 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 but clutch type limited slip differentials wear out eventually (especially with harder driving).gear types, much like the quife and the detroit truetrac DON'T wear out, and are a better option. the only reason i would go with a clutch type is for cost.monkey rebuilding a clutch type in an m56 everytime. too much PITA.p.s. gear types WILL still spin that wheel with traction when the other one has none, that's why they were engineered that way. what's the point of getting an lsd over keeping the open diff if that wasn't true? a wheel on ice has the same amount of traction as one in the air, and it will still throw some power to the one that has traction.I have to say this is the first time I heard that a gear type slips when in the air!Everything I've read over the last 30years says the oppsite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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