Geoff Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 1)19t's are wayyyyyyy more efficient than 15g's so of course less boost on the 19tvs.15g is going to produce more power than the internals can handle. When's the last time someone bent a rod with a 15g besides never? If you read, Bracer clearly states that 14psi MAX should be achieved below 3,000rpm. 2)His 15g is running at 55%-65% efficiency. He runs a different octane, lots of things to help him with cooling, and on top of it all a nice chip with darn near perfect timing...3)Well, all we could say is maybe he's better at tuning his car than you... All we hear here is you two (mostly Joe) bitching about how folks don't know how to do modding right and people are wasting their time, or people just flat out don't know what they're doing. But when someone DOES do some quality jerk work, it's unbelievable and just can't be trueAnd thanks freeskier. I like to trust...The only time I've been "gullible" is by trusting Legend854t5r's oh yeah! jerk when he was spreading bull stuff around, but I know not to listen to him nor do I have respect for him, and until Bracer is proved or disowned as doing what he's PROVED and shown on a DYNO, then I will keep my trust in what he says and what he's shown, plain and simple. Gullible or not. a turbos efficiency has nothing to do with the amount of boost that is being pushed. a 19t at 100 psi has the same amount of pressure as a 9b pushing 100psi. The only difference is efficiency and cfm which is a whole nother conversation and has little to do with strain on the rods. i dont think you are reading properly, 15Gs CANT HOLD MORE THAN 11PSI TO REDLINE!!!!!also, a few people have blown their motor with 15gs, and they werent boosting anywhere near B-racer. Octane makes a difference but it will not change the tensile strength of the engines stock connecting rods.Think before you speak,-Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 A 450awhp car that doesn't work...But that's besides the point, we're talking about Bracer's Volvo and your Volvo...Not his Volvo and your 3000gt. And in this case his car IS tuned pretty darn well to be running the power/boost it IS running, and yes due to his proof, he IS running way more power than you thought was imaginable (obviously, since you must think your car is maxed out) with what he's got. Ohh man, you are just missing the point and blowing hot air out of your jerk.1) My car runs better than a red ferrari.2) Volvos need LESS tuning than a 3000gt , because volvos have chips that TUNE THEMSELVES.3) Bracer has not listed any tool that would enable him to tune his car in the slightest bit in his signature. Therefore, there is no way for him to tune the car. Please, Tell me what he can tune on his car other than boost if he doesnt have an A/F controller?-Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0E Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hey...it does take a lot to tune these cars! You have to choose the right combination of spark plugs, their gaps, and the proper wires!! Yeah, installing a new ECU that you got from an envelope in your mail-box is not "tuning". Real "tuning" comes from hours upon hours, if not days on a dyno monitoring and making changes to any and all vital aspect revolving around the power train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0E Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Noah, are you Bracer's secretary or something? You are on his nuts like the Planters squirrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Noah, are you Bracer's secretary or something? You are on his nuts like the Planters squirrel.Thats the first time i actually Laughed out Loud at my desk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noahkk19 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 a turbos efficiency has nothing to do with the amount of boost that is being pushed. a 19t at 100 psi has the same amount of pressure as a 9b pushing 100psi. The only difference is efficiency and cfm which is a whole nother conversation and has little to do with strain on the rods. i dont think you are reading properly, 15Gs CANT HOLD MORE THAN 11PSI TO REDLINE!!!!!also, a few people have blown their motor with 15gs, and they werent boosting anywhere near B-racer. Octane makes a difference but it will not change the tensile strength of the engines stock connecting rods.Think before you speak,-GeoffHow about you read...I said POWER, as in 19t at 10psi puts out more POWER than 15g at 10psi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noahkk19 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Noah, are you Bracer's secretary or something? You are on his nuts like the Planters squirrel.haha, don't tell ME about being on someone's nuts, I think we have 2 pretty big nut huggers trying to tag team together right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 How about you read...I said POWER, as in 19t at 10psi puts out more POWER than 15g at 10psi. Uhh huh, so what?Power is all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noahkk19 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Uhh huh, so what?Power is all relative. oh, right right so a 19t running at high efficiency @20psi vs 15g running very low efficiency @26psi doesnt have a much higher chance of breaking rodsbut HEY, until Bracer comes, and you guys can tell me how he got 360 down to the wheels and he has it on his fake dyno sheet, since every grown man who pulls somthin off is a liar, then every single shred of doubt you guys bring to the table is reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieR Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Well, i think you've all missed the most important point! Which is . .. . .. HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRACER :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Jeez, i always get caught off in a tangent, HAPPY BIRFDAY B-RACER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noahkk19 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Well, i think you've all missed the most important point! Which is . .. . .. HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRACER oh yea, happy birthday haha, I swear to GOD, if you turn out to be a fake or a liar, I'll never defend or trust anyone on this stuff board again... . I find this all funny though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalMystic79 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Okay, a theme in just about every thread on this board now is a pissing match between people about mods and performance. WHO CARES? Everybody has the right to believe or deny whatever anyones says, another thing... THIS IS THE INTERNET. Take it for what it is and Oh hush. If I say something and someone says stuff, let them say stuff, I don't care. As long as you believe it's a good mod, or you have good performance, than be satified and don't get a sh*t about what others say. Why does everyone get their panties in a bunch about trivial stuff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeskier8585 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 15Gs CANT HOLD MORE THAN 11PSI TO REDLINEare you kidding, i hold 13 till redline...... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 are you kidding, i hold 13 till redline...... Ok fine, but you get what iam saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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