laird Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 While installing new Koni/Eibach setup I noticed that the (stock) front sway bar had a natural, um, shall we say elevation to it. It seem to me that the swaybar should rotate in the bushings since the twisting force is what is being controled. I'd guess that 40ish pounds of force is needed to push the bar down to attach the endlinks. The bar itself is firmly bonded to the bushing. Is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikv11 Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 The bar itself is firmly bonded to the bushing. Is this normal?yeswhich means it is a hassle to replace the bushings - have to burn them off or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 If the car is sitting flat, i.e. the wheels NOT hanging down (like on when on jackstands) the sways will pretty much line up with the end links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 yeswhich means it is a hassle to replace the bushings - have to burn them off or something.there is no "replacing the bushings" you replace the entire bar. The bushings are vulcanized onto the bar......I've often thought about SOMEONE making a replacement bushing set-up. You'd have to remove the old bushing, and come up with a nice new poly (or Delrin) bushing and clamp block...Slater, are you listening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil E Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Why do the work to "upgrade" the bushing and not upgrade the bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Why do the work to "upgrade" the bushing and not upgrade the bar?1. There is nothing wrong at all with the Volvo factory sway bars, and the R bars are as big as the IPD's2. it would be way cheaper that the required $360 for a set of IPD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikv11 Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 there is no "replacing the bushings" you replace the entire bar. The bushings are vulcanized onto the bar...On the earlier years (93 and maybe 94) the bushings were not vulcanized. So the parts houses sell bushings for 850 bars. Often they list these parts as compatible with all years. And there are other, non-rubber aftermarket bushings out there. So time to time, people ask here about replacing the bushings. You can replace the bushings on the newer bars too, but you have to burn off the old ones (or something similar to remove them) and I agree that I'd probably replace the bar instead. Especially with so many good, OEM bars around from folks upgrading to IPD bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kir Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 there is no "replacing the bushings" you replace the entire bar. The bushings are vulcanized onto the bar......I've often thought about SOMEONE making a replacement bushing set-up. You'd have to remove the old bushing, and come up with a nice new poly (or Delrin) bushing and clamp block...Slater, are you listening?IPD bushings have nice design. And what's nice is that these bushings aren't made by IPD and available 24/7 in all sizes and colors for cheap (both greaseable and non-greaseable) made by Prothane or Suspension Energy. If you ever seen IPD bar bushings, take a look HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I am not at all dissatisfied with the stock bars and I don't know if the bushings are a problem. I do think it is odd that the bushings are bonded. I realize now that with the suspension hanging, the endlinks of course, didn't line up, my stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil E Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I have these on another car; they are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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