Saw "who Killed The Electric Car" Last Week

[FixerUpper]

lol. we're all republicans at heart.

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I dont poking think so

you could buy an electric car instead of a hybrid pos today if it wasnt for republican lawmakers.

Hybrids are garbage, good luck getting that prius worked on in a few years, or replacing your batteries for 2000 dollars. People are buying hybrids bc they are fashionable. No hybrid currently made can equal the mileage of the civic hx which was a 4 cyl gas engine.

[NoodleKnight]

lol. we're all republicans at heart.

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I dont poking think so

you could buy an electric car instead of a hybrid pos today if it wasnt for republican lawmakers.

Hybrids are garbage, good luck getting that prius worked on in a few years, or replacing your batteries for 2000 dollars. People are buying hybrids bc they are fashionable. No hybrid currently made can equal the mileage of the civic hx which was a 4 cyl gas engine.

Toyota is offering a 10 year, 150,000mile warranty on the batteries, that's how reliable they are. The batteries used in the Toyota rav-4 EV are over 10 years old and have over 100,000 miles on them, I believe south coast edison has a fleet of these Rav-4 EV's and they've put them through a lot of use. Although Toyota isn't permitted to build and use these batteries anymore, they wouldn't use any lesser technology on their current batteries. On top of that, the Prius has one of the most aerodynamic bodies of all the current cars on the market. I believe the EV-1 was the only other car with a lower coefficient of drag, but GM pretty much crushed or disabled all of those.

You're just speaking from ignorance; the toyota prius engine is the most thermal efficient engine you can buy off the market as of right now; it's around 30-35% thermally efficient, where as most gasoline engines are only around 20-25%, diesel engines are around 40%, but that's a different story. The electric drivetrain assembly in the prius only exists to help recapture lost energy when you brake (normally the rotational energy is just turned into heat), and is later sent back to the wheels when you accelerate from a stop, or when you need extra acceleration. The Prius has better gas mileage than a civic, the end. Hybrids aren't only purchased because they're fashionable.

Everyone picks on the batteries. If you think of it, there aren't many of us who commute over what the range of the 10 year old EV-1's gave us. On top of that, battery technology hasn't been standing still, lead acids and metal hydride batteries are older technologies, lithium ion (and hopefully lithium polymer) batteries are the current cutting edge of battery technology. And no, they don't blow up like they do in laptop batteries when they fault.

[mrmandmman]

Moridin knows what is up.

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

[PyROTech]

Where do all these batteries go when the cars die?

Recycled, same place with all batteries now. Well, unless you are in redneck country, then they go down in the ravine with the old freezer and couch.

was waiting for that question.

If even half the US vehicles went electric what would we do with all the batteries?

By the time half the us vehicles are then i am fairly sure tech will have progressed sufficiently to over come this problem.

For me the pure batt powered cars dont make sense, i guess for some uses the hybrid would be really good. But alot of my 50kkm a year is highway which doesnt make sense then for me, i get excellent fuel mileage already. Lower than manf specs as long as i use cruise control and keep the speed down im looking at a 6.8l/100km. In the city well, its pretty much double that if not more.

[mrmandmman]

For me the pure batt powered cars dont make sense

Why don't battery powered cars make sense? The tesla roadster mentioned above can drive 200 miles on a charge, wait 5 years that will certainly be higher if money is put into li-ion or li-ion polymers. An electric car is much simpler than an ICE vehicle, won't pollute nearly as much greenhouse gases even when charged with coal powered plants. The distribution system is already in place, and underutilized at night. With that being said, how many of the 50km a year are under 200 miles round trip?

The largest obstacle with todays electrics is the battery, but if more money is put into R&D it will certainly get more capacity per volume and weight.

Oh and Charles, why can't we recycle the batteries?

[PyROTech]

Why don't battery powered cars make sense? The tesla roadster mentioned above can drive 200 miles on a charge, wait 5 years that will certainly be higher if money is put into li-ion or li-ion polymers. An electric car is much simpler than an ICE vehicle, won't pollute nearly as much greenhouse gases even when charged with coal powered plants. The distribution system is already in place, and underutilized at night. With that being said, how many of the 50km a year are under 200 miles round trip?

The largest obstacle with todays electrics is the battery, but if more money is put into R&D it will certainly get more capacity per volume and weight.

Oh and Charles, why can't we recycle the batteries?

my trips are 500km each way easy. With limited stop over and then im back on the road.

[prasamin]

interesting movie. i like An Inconvenient Truth alot more though.

[Plan_B]

interesting movie. i like An Inconvenient Truth alot more though.

Both were way to long.

[FixerUpper]

I am not speaking from ignorance.

Hybrids are a fad. I am glad toyota offers a warranty they will definitely be honoring that.

[Plan_B]

I am not speaking from ignorance.

Hybrids are a fad. I am glad toyota offers a warranty they will definitely be honoring that.

A fad?, they are now making trains hybrid, think it's a little more then a fad.

[NoodleKnight]

I am not speaking from ignorance.

Hybrids are a fad. I am glad toyota offers a warranty they will definitely be honoring that.

Hybrids aren't a fad. They're not going to go away and we're going to go back to just gasoline burning cars. If anything, they're a crossover to electric cars.

It looks like you didn't bother to read what I wrote.