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[Spoony]

word filter owns j000!!!!!!!!!

The word filter didn't own me, I'm a Supporting Member. I'm safe from its grasp.

[Deltablade]

I don't know how anyone, even a Christian, can say that homosexuality is wrong or sinful. Guess what? brokeback people don't choose to be brokeback. Its just the way they are (the way God made them).

Ask Grant when he decided that he wanted to prefer men to women. Not when he realized it, when he chose it.

Better yet, ask yourself when you decided to be straight...Oh yeah, you didn't. Its just the way you are.

[Spoony]

Nice to bump an old thread, but I agree with ya.

[Plan_B]

I don't know how anyone, even a Christian, can say that homosexuality is wrong or sinful. Guess what? brokeback people don't choose to be brokeback. Its just the way they are (the way God made them).

Ask Grant when he decided that he wanted to prefer men to women. Not when he realized it, when he chose it.

Better yet, ask yourself when you decided to be straight...Oh yeah, you didn't. Its just the way you are.

Well said, as always Tom ;)

[bmcintyre]

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QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 3 2006, 03:14 PM) ←

Well said, as always Tom

Yet another noob bumping this thread. But what a f---tard! I think I'll send him some pictures of yards in Bisbee where "Outside Pride" has a whole different meaning. Jeeeeeeezus.

B

[rodrigo]

So much for wholesome family television.

no such thing

[starfish]

Ok..thought we'd get some good feedback here.

I recently ordered some lawncare products from Outsidepride.com. As I'm on their mailing list, I received this letter from their site today:

This is not your typical newsletter from Outsidepride.com, Inc. In fact, this is the first one in six years which is not business related. I apologize for cluttering your inbox with an unsolicited email; however you are free to unsubscribe just by clicking the link at the bottom.

I want to share with you my television viewing experience the other night on prime time television. I ask those of you who agree with me to go to www.cbs.com and go to the bottom of the page, click the feedback link and express your opinion. I know the vast majority of you will agree with me as all polls indicate. We are the majority, not the minority as the liberal media would lead you to believe.

My wife and I sat down to watch television the other night with our children. Cold Case was on which is normally a fairly enjoyable show to watch; however, the last half hour of the show dealt with a young man who wished he had asked his male friend to come with him (long story short). The show ended with the two men hugging and obvious intimation they had discovered their brokeback feelings towards each other. The very next show was Without A Trace. The whole last half hour of this show was about two lesbians who were struggling with their feelings of lesbianism. It ended with full acceptance from one father and the two lesbians making out. Yes, they were kissing right at the end of the show on public prime time television. So much for wholesome family television.

Now, I am NOT trying to bash homosexuals and I am not a bigot; however, I feel homosexuality is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society. Text books are being rewritten as I am writing this to "highlight" every homosexual who has made a contribution to society. There are teachers who have been asked to make sure students know that, "This person in history was a homosexual." History is being rewritten to promote homosexuality and prime time television is doing its best to make homosexuality a "normal" behavior. If homosexuality was the norm, civilization would have ceased to exist thousands of years ago. Procreation takes a man and a woman. There was Adam and then there was Eve, not Adam and Steve.

There are literally tens of thousand of you reading this email right now. If you are tired of the way public television is going let CBS know! It will only take about 1 minute of your time. Again, just go to www.cbs.com and click the feedback link at the bottom. It is time the majority speak up and not let the minority run this country. The majority can bring back the Christian heritage this country was founded on because it is, "In God We Trust."

Thank you for your time,

Troy Hake

President

Outsidepride.com, Inc.

I think this guy's absolutely rediculous and I won't be ordering anything from their site ever again. I showed this letter to a very conservative colleague of mine and he thought it was great. He'll probably become a customer based on this guy's convictions alone. So it's a wash.

Huge gamble with your business IMO. Can't wait to see the debate that ensues...

Was Mel Gibson's drunken verbal assault on Jews the truth or a Freudian slip of an intoxicated mind? This man Troy Hake, is a good man, a family man, a spiritual Christian man and no doubt a good leader for his company and community. His message is clear, that it is time for the majority to stand up to these media outlets who are focused on destroying the values American family's believe in and support. The enemy is not homosexuals themselves but the meda magistrates such as Sumner Redstone, Edgar Bronfmam, Gerald Levin, Samuel Newhouse, Harvey Weinstein, Norman Pearlstine, Michael Eisner, David Wolper and William Karel, all who are Jewish. These self hating men have deceived us with propaganda when providing entertainment by the explosion in use of sexual titillation, eroticism and the portrayal and promotion of the homosexual lifestyle as a common normalcy, in order to distract and suppress their viewers to gain control of our population. With this power they have of providing news information or through the use of the entertainment media, they attempt change in our perception of world events and morals by incrementally pushing the line to their leftist agenda.

What currently is allowed for as entertainment are psychotic forms of propaganda used to manipulate the viewers mind in order to promote their intended goal of the spread of liberalism, the creation of Israel, globalism and the New World Order. The liberal American media distorts news reports, promotes immoral behavior, violence, drug abuse, sexual perversion, neurotic attitudes, psychotic behavior and their extremist left-wing liberal agenda. They encourage anti-christian, anti-marriage, anti-family, anti-heterosexual, anti-police, anti-government, anti-military, anti-Bush policy. They promote the idea of the Vatican attempting to take over the world, or some mysterious group of Neocons or big oil company executives or our President, George Bush. However, if you look at the wars and chaos in the 20th century, they all seem to be intended to help Israel at the expense of America, Europe and Russia.

Whether it be through their liberal agenda put forth in education at public schools and universities, or to the half-asleep mindless viewer of their garbage on television, it makes the participant a useful idiot. Liberalism is a mental disorder!

Edited September 4, 2006 by starfish

[Spoony]

I'm sorry if I disagree with you on that one. I think think the owner of this lawn care company doesn't approve of homosexuality and wants everybody to agree with him. I believe in gay marriage and I'm pissed that it's not legal in more states. This whole "marriage is sacred" thing is getting out of hand.

The whole letter was about how the owner dislikes homosexuality and wants it off television. Just because he's not accustomed to it, why should it change? These are conservative views that limit the growth of society.

[starfish]

Your disagreement with what you believe what Mr. Hake has said is out of context with what he actually said in his letter. Are you choosing to misinterpret his words deliberately? The growth of society will never, can never ever come through the promotion of homosexuality! By the shear definition of the word "marriage", legal term or common knowledge, can it ever be construed as an equal term between two heterosexuals and two homosexuals. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Marriage

Furthermore, marriage is more than two people, a promise of commitment, a ring and a ceremony. Marriage is the building block of civilization and family. If everyone were able to bastardze the language to fit their personal political agenda or viewpoint, what would there be left with any meaning? Mr. Hake never proclaimed anti-homosexual viewpoints other than he did not like to see this type of deliberate provocative lewdness in a television how that he and his family had priorly enjoyed to their satisfaction as being within his moral guidelines as for what is a good entertainment for himself, his wife and children. That does not make him a prude but shows how most clear thinking moral people would behave in his situation. Mr Hake was expressing his displeasure with how the corrupt liberal media has assaulted an attack on his values within his home. The show could of had explicit relations within a heterosexual relationship in the story versus a homosexual relationship and I am sure that Mr. Hake would not be satisfied either.

Why do you feel this deep need of changing thr meaning of the word marriage to become the same term used for homosexual unions?

Being homosexual by its very nature is a perversion. If we as a society were to allow homosexual marriage to occur, when or what should we stop from allowing? Why not lower the bar all the way and remove laws forbidding sodomy, beastiallity, incestual relationships, child pornography, rape and molestation if the media can televise shows promoting the love and nuturing felt by one selfish person in the relationship?

[Spoony]

I feel homosexuality is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society.

I don't believe that I took anything out of context. He stated his opinion on homosexuality; he didn't even mention anything else in that specific sentence relating to entertainment or media. He used the specific word "promoted" showing that he doesn't want this "problem" growing any bigger than it's already gotten. It seems as though he wants homosexuality put to an end so he doens't have to think about it.

Times change and so does society so the "norm for society" will probably be very different in 100 years. While he and his wife were watching the televsion program, they wanted the show to change for them rather than them change for the show. They'd rather have millions of people dislike watching homosexuality then them accept it as the "norm".

I, for one, already find it normal and welcome homosexuality into society.

[starfish]

I don't believe that I took anything out of context. He stated his opinion on homosexuality; he didn't even mention anything else in that specific sentence relating to entertainment or media. He used the specific word "promoted" showing that he doesn't want this "problem" growing any bigger than it's already gotten. It seems as though he wants homosexuality put to an end so he doens't have to think about it.

Times change and so does society so the "norm for society" will probably be very different in 100 years. While he and his wife were watching the televsion program, they wanted the show to change for them rather than them change for the show. They'd rather have millions of people dislike watching homosexuality then them accept it as the "norm".

I, for one, already find it normal and welcome homosexuality into society.

I don't think you have the capability of fully reading and comprehending what arguments are being put forth within the context of either Mr. Hake's letter or my replies without your brain filtering out what you do not agree with.

As a liberal such as yourself, you may not be able to understand big words like morals, ethics or values. The liberals whom indoctrinated you tend to not speak of such lessons. Morals and values do not change like the wind on any given day, in fact they never evolve. The reason to include homosexuals or any other type of lewd behavior or language on the public airways is for titillation of the viewer to remain hooked on the show to sell advertisement. There are many possible ways the shows writers could entice a viewer to continue watching the show and the accompaning advertisements. Lewd language, sexual encounters and lascivious acts or portrayals are a cheap easy storyline that dumbs down their audience and shows contempt for them as they maniplulate their behavior with this mischievious liberal propaganda.

[Spoony]

I may not be capable of typing as elegantly as you but I know what I believe in. Homosexual or heterosexual, it's all the same to me. Jut because somebody prefers the same sex, they shouldn't receive hatred or less rights. People can televise anything within reason and I believe that two gay partners can do whatever the hell they want on television that a stright couple can do. I don't consider myself a radical liberal and in fact, I stayed away from considering myself part of any political party. I go by what I believe in and I just happen to disagree with most of the consevatives especially on this topic. They refuse to accept change that they're uncomfortable with.

[starfish]

You are a populist and have few key convictions of morality because then you would have to pick sides. Moral strength and guidance is not one of a populists personality strong points. Populists are more afraid of seeming like an elitist and are willing to change their beliefs for general acceptance because of this shared low self-esteem. This is not my idea of strong leadership or a character trait that needs to be nurtured and further developed.

This is not about having a group or an individual conservative being uncomfortable with homosexuals. This is about what is acceptable moral actions and behavior in our society on public airwaves that in this case features provocation with a homosexual agenda in back to back tv shows on the same network the man previously enjoyed watching for entertainment with his family. As as the patriarch of his home he finds this open display of sexuality, homosexual or otherwise to be disgusting. Mr Hake used the power that he had available to form an alliance for change. This is a good thing!

[Volvo Virgin]

Was Mel Gibson's drunken verbal assault on Jews the truth or a Freudian slip of an intoxicated mind? This man Troy Hake, is a good man, a family man, a spiritual Christian man and no doubt a good leader for his company and community. His message is clear, that it is time for the majority to stand up to these media outlets who are focused on destroying the values American family's believe in and support. The enemy is not homosexuals themselves but the meda magistrates such as Samual Redstone, Edgar Bronham, Gerald Levin, Samual Newhouse, Harvey Weinstein, Norman Pearlstine, Michael Eisner, David Wolper and William Karel, all who are Jewish. These self hating men have deceived us with propaganda when providing entertainment by the explosion in use of sexual titillation, eroticism and the portrayal and promotion of the homosexual lifestyle as a common normalcy, in order to distract and suppress their viewers to gain control of our population. With this power they have of providing news information or through the use of the entertainment media, they attempt change in our perception of world events and morals by incrementally pushing the line to their leftist agenda.

What currently is allowed for as entertainment are psychotic forms of propaganda used to manipulate the viewers mind in order to promote their intended goal of the spread of liberalism, the creation of Israel, globalism and the New World Order. The liberal American media distorts news reports, promotes immoral behavior, violence, drug abuse, sexual perversion, neurotic attitudes, psychotic behavior and their extremist left-wing liberal agenda. They encourage anti-christian, anti-marriage, anti-family, anti-heterosexual, anti-police, anti-government, anti-military, anti-Bush policy. They promote the idea of the Vatican attempting to take over the world, or some mysterious group of Neocons or big oil company executives or our President, George Bush. However, if you look at the wars and chaos in the 20th century, they all seem to be intended to help Israel at the expense of America, Europe and Russia.

Whether it be through their liberal agenda put forth in education at public schools and universities, or to the half-asleep mindless viewer of their garbage on television, it makes the participant a useful idiot. Liberalism is a mental disorder!

Easy there Hitler! :lol:

[Plan_B]

--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 3 2006, 03:14 PM) ←</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

Well said, as always Tom

Yet another noob bumping this thread. But what a f---tard! I think I'll send him some pictures of yards in Bisbee where "Outside Pride" has a whole different meaning. Jeeeeeeezus.

B

Did you call me a noob?