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I don't know how anyone, even a Christian, can say that homosexuality is wrong or sinful. Guess what? brokeback people don't choose to be brokeback. Its just the way they are (the way God made them).

Ask Grant when he decided that he wanted to prefer men to women. Not when he realized it, when he chose it.

Better yet, ask yourself when you decided to be straight...Oh yeah, you didn't. Its just the way you are.

Wrong. No credible, comprehensive scientific determination has yet been made as to the cause of homosexuality in one person and not in another. It appears to be a combination of a genetic predisposition and exposure.

And the Christian Bible clearly cites homosexuals acts as sinful but at the same time, everyone as sinners. Just different sins for different folks. The focus of the Christian Bible is struggle against committing sin.

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B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 10:59 AM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

It's the same people that think "god" created the earth that think homosexuality is a choice ;)

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I believe in evolution which is how we came about. I, for one, don't believe in a god, so creationism and intelligent design seem incredibly dumb to me. I believe that science can explain how the earth came to be but I don't believe it can explain sexual preference

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B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 10:59 AM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

It's the same people that think "god" created the earth that think homosexuality is a choice ;)

Dumbest thing I've ever seen you say Grant.I KNOW God is the creator.....and I don't believe anyone initially wanted to be gay when they first realized their preference for the same sex.

You honestly think THAT is the stupiedst thing I have said :blink: , do you ever read my posts :o:monkey::P

The universe was not created by someone, it evolved into what it is today, if you believe anything else then you are only fooling yourself ;)

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QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM)

You honestly think THAT is the stupiedst thing I have said :blink: , do you ever read my posts :o:monkey::P

Good point!

But with regards to creation I think it is you that is fooling himself my friend. :)

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B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

You honestly think THAT is the stupiedst thing I have said :blink: , do you ever read my posts :o:monkey::P

Good point!

But with regards to creation I think it is you that is fooling himself my friend. :)

So you want me to believe that someone that you have never seen or have any proof that exsists, created this universe?

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I believe in evolution which is how we came about. I, for one, don't believe in a god, so creationism and intelligent design seem incredibly dumb to me. I believe that science can explain how the earth came to be but I don't believe it can explain sexual preference

I am not picking on you but you do seem like the current poster boy for the confused lately! There are many perversions or other nonconforming ideals to all lifeforms in our world. Homosexuality which is one such perversion may not be a choice, but to link homosexuality, theories of evolution and creationism together within your context is out of place. Science has never been able to prove the creation or evolution of anything. Many people of faith who believe in God, believe that he created everything for a purpose even deformities and illness which may for an eternity never be fully understood by man.

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it could just be me but it seems this is straying from sexual preference and more towards beliefs and faith (in some areas)

i like to believe in god but im know he didnt do stuff its just a matter of faith and faith is just believeing in something when common sense tells you not to (dogma?)

any way on with the homosexuality talk

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QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 09:11 PM)

So you want me to believe that someone that you have never seen or have any proof that exsists, created this universe?

Faith teaches us that this is a typical response of many who feel that if there actually is a God, then he might be quite upset with their daily life choices so its just easier to choose not to believe in him and get the feelings of guilt and the fear of God away from their minds for the time being all together instead of doing the hard work needed now in preparation to meet him later at their day of judgement.

In an attempt to steer this thread back to the original writers topic, this is exactly the morals and core values that this owner of the company and his family practice.

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