Vcoa National Meet

[Blunt]

after looking at every single pics in this thread... goddamnit I need some 18"!!!!

[Guest 300+_T5R_855]

after looking at every single pics in this thread... goddamnit I need some 18"!!!!

Here a link to the official photograhers photos of the meet.

http://justjulz.photosite.com/2006VCOAWestCoastMeet/

[S70 R]

damn... wish my car was in tip top shape to be there.... looks like a good time and pras im loving your wagon@!

[Über855R]

Man, I didn't take a single picture of my car at the show. It looks like no one else did either. Weird. Anybody got any pics of my car from the actual show?

[Zappo]

Man, I didn't take a single picture of my car at the show. It looks like no one else did either. Weird. Anybody got any pics of my car from the actual show?

I took two. Check the link that CJ has above. There are lots of show pictures in there.

[Guest Guest]

Autocross Results

Modified:

1st - George Haigh 850R

2nd - John Pagel - 745

3rd - CJ Yother - 850R

Stock

1. Ben Huntly 850

2. Carl Hockett P1800ES

3. Jon Vikander x/c 70

Interesting to see what you guys think about judged events. They have their own personality. When you enter a judged event and you don't win, it feels like you just got told your baby is ugly. I know. I have lost lots and lots of judged events. Imagine how all those figure skaters and ribbon dancers feel...

My experience with judged car shows, as opposed to people's choice, is that generally in people's choice the red cars win. Or as my wife would say, the ones with the stuffed animals win. If a person (judge) really looks carefully at all of the cars in the field, there is some consistency and the "best" car usually wins. Best means the one that is visually the best. Judges can't look inside engines. They can only judge what they can see. Typically judged car shows evaluate cars on appearance, cleanliness and workmanship. As I looked at the cars in the 850 group, some of them were dirty, and some of the clean ones were not carefully detailed. That is going to hurt you in a judged event. The judge sometimes has little to go on in deciding which car should win. A little lack of clenliness in the engine compartment, or wear in the interior can be the deciding factor.

If you are going to do judged shows, you need to know how the game is played. I really liked Pras' car. I was surprised it didn't win something, but the competition was pretty tough. if you don't win there is no need to disparage the judge. In this case, the judges were knowledgable guys who did the best job they could.

Judging cars is a lot of work. It is hard to get good people to do it because they always end up taking stuff from somebody who didn't win and wants to cry about it. Personally, I like doing people's choice. It is easier for me because I just count the votes and don't have to take stuff from anybody. Fewer hurt feelings. But for a national meet it just isn't good enough. For Davis, people's choice is fine, but there needs to be a forum where people who are serious about restoration, detailing and workmanship can be judged against the competition.

Anyway... I'm very glad you guys came. It was good to have you there. Contratulations on winning so many awards. You brought some really great cars.

Lee

[Über855R]

Autocross Results

Modified:

1st - George Haigh 850R

2nd - John Pagel - 745

3rd - CJ Yother - 850R

Stock

1. Ben Huntly 850

2. Carl Hockett P1800ES

3. Jon Vikander x/c 70

Lee

Thanks Lee, I was wondering who placed besides George. Can you post up all the other classes for the actual show also?

[Guest 300+_T5R_855]

Thanks Lee, I was wondering who placed besides George. Can you post up all the other classes for the actual show also?

I will be posting the entire list along with links to several photo albums on th ggvcoa website. It should be up by Monday.

[prasamin]

Autocross Results

Modified:

1st - George Haigh 850R

2nd - John Pagel - 745

3rd - CJ Yother - 850R

Stock

1. Ben Huntly 850

2. Carl Hockett P1800ES

3. Jon Vikander x/c 70

Interesting to see what you guys think about judged events. They have their own personality. When you enter a judged event and you don't win, it feels like you just got told your baby is ugly. I know. I have lost lots and lots of judged events. Imagine how all those figure skaters and ribbon dancers feel...

My experience with judged car shows, as opposed to people's choice, is that generally in people's choice the red cars win. Or as my wife would say, the ones with the stuffed animals win. If a person (judge) really looks carefully at all of the cars in the field, there is some consistency and the "best" car usually wins. Best means the one that is visually the best. Judges can't look inside engines. They can only judge what they can see. Typically judged car shows evaluate cars on appearance, cleanliness and workmanship. As I looked at the cars in the 850 group, some of them were dirty, and some of the clean ones were not carefully detailed. That is going to hurt you in a judged event. The judge sometimes has little to go on in deciding which car should win. A little lack of clenliness in the engine compartment, or wear in the interior can be the deciding factor.

If you are going to do judged shows, you need to know how the game is played. I really liked Pras' car. I was surprised it didn't win something, but the competition was pretty tough. if you don't win there is no need to disparage the judge. In this case, the judges were knowledgable guys who did the best job they could.

Judging cars is a lot of work. It is hard to get good people to do it because they always end up taking stuff from somebody who didn't win and wants to cry about it. Personally, I like doing people's choice. It is easier for me because I just count the votes and don't have to take stuff from anybody. Fewer hurt feelings. But for a national meet it just isn't good enough. For Davis, people's choice is fine, but there needs to be a forum where people who are serious about restoration, detailing and workmanship can be judged against the competition.

Anyway... I'm very glad you guys came. It was good to have you there. Contratulations on winning so many awards. You brought some really great cars.

Lee

No crying from me. I was just pointing out the age difference . I know that it's tough to judge a car just by peaking at it for 5 minutes. I knew (we all knew) that Ben was going to take the awards, and that was obvious, I would have been surprised if ANYONE would have placed higher than his car. Either way, the show was alright for me, completely different kind of crowd than I am used to. It was definitely nice meeting Lee and a couple of VS members that I hadn't met, and it was nice seeing cars besides 850's for a change! My paint is just too tough to detail compared to the richer, darker blacks and reds out there, so understandably, it's hard to notice the paint quality. And I'll be the first to admit that my engine bay was NASTY, but that's what happens when you have to remove your lower splash guard, roll your fenders, and slice away the fender liner. Everything makes a home in there lol.

The only part of the meet that I didn't like PERSONALLY, is the entire "conference" and "banquety" feeling, but I guess that's the nature of the game when it's multiple days and in a land far far away.

Other than that, :tup:

[Über855R]

Here is the official results straight from the VCOA president Lee Cordner, I know most of you already got this email but I figured I should add it to the thread for anyone else not a VCOA member.

Concours de Elegance

Class 1 – Masters Modified

First Place – Jerry Palfenier, 1971 1800E (car #152)

Class 2 – Masters Stock

First Place – Mike Dudek, 1973 1800ES (car #117)

Second Place – Karl Grimm, 1970 1800E (car #128)

Class 3 – Modified 122

First Place – James Crowther, 1963 122S (car #113)

Second Place – Michael Bender, 1966 122S (car #104)

Third Place – Cameron Lovre, 1968 122S (car #143)

Class 4 – Modified 544 - 140

First Place – Gary Sellstrom, 1974 144 (car #163)

Second Place – Bruce Lloyd, 1963 544 (car #141)

Third Place – Hal Locke, 1962 544 (car #183)

Class 5 – Modified 200 – 700 Sedans

First Place – Tim Otters, 1980 242T (car #149)

Second Place – Fred Gallaher, 1981 242 (car #125)

Third Place – Harry Beasley, 1982 242T (car #103)

Class 6 – Modified 200 – 700 Wagons

First Place – Dennis Hatfield, 1985 745 (car #129)

Second Place – Les Baxley, 1990 745 (car #102)

Third Place – Helen & Gary Lodge, 1979 265 (car #142)

Class 7 – Modified 850 Sedans

First Place – George Haigh, 1997 850 R (car #130)

Second Place – Doug Kauer, 1995 850 T5R (car #171)

Class 8 – Modified 850 Wagons

First Place – Ben Woodford, 1997 855 R (car #179)

Second Place – C.J. Yother, Jr., 1995 855 T5R (car #182)

Third Place – Jason Hooper, 1997 855R (car #132)

Class 9 – Modified 1800

First Place – Fran Gawronski, 1962 1800 (car #127)

Second Place – Roger Fritch, 1973 1800ES (car #124)

Third Place – Michael Woodford, 1962 1800 (car #180)

Class 10 – Modified V-Series

First Place – Steven Parkhurst, 2006 V70R (car #174)

Second Place – Shawn Flint, 1998 V70R (car #122)

Third Place – John Sharp, 2000 V70R (car #164)

Class 11 – Stock 544 - 122

First Place – Pascual Castro, 1964 544 (car #110)

Second Place – George McDonald, 1967 122S (car #187)

Third Place – Alberto del Calvo, 1968 122S (car # 114)

Class 12 – Stock 140 - 240

First Place – Bill Webb, 1971 142GT (car #175)

Second Place – Michael Peterson, 1970 144 (car #154)

Class 13 – Stock 700 Series

First Place – Wally & Marcia Russell, 1990 780 (car #161)

Second Place – Vic Dres, 1988 740GLE (car #118)

Class 14 – Stock 850 – 900 Series

First Place – Lee Cordner, 1995 850 T5R (car #112)

Second Place – Scott Smith, 1995 850 T5R (car #166)

Class 15 – Stock Early 1800 (1962-1969)

First Place – Ted Brough, 1967 1800 (car #109)

Second Place – Dennis Winslow, 1968 1800 (car #177)

Third Place – John Winslow, 1965 1800 (car #178)

Class 16 – Stock Late 1800 (1970-1973)

First Place – Peter Eulau, 1972 1800E (car #121)

Second Place – Keith Schemm, 1970 1800E (car #162)

Third Place – Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese, 1973 1800ES (car #131)

Class 17 – Stock C, S Series

First Place – James Pinger, 2004 S60R (car #156)

Second Place – Clifford Fried, 2004 S60R (car #123)

Third Place – Billy Tave, 1998 C70 Coupe (car #170)

Class 18 – Stock V, X Series

First Place – Bill & Betty Britton, 2005 V50 T5 (car #107)

Second Place – Dave & brokeback Kent, 2006 V70XC Ocean Race (car #137)

Third Place – Steve Yabroff, 2005 V70R (car #181)

Class 19 – 1900

First Place – David Hunt, 1956 1900 (car #133)

Second Place – Lars Jansson, 1957 1900 (car #135)

Special Awards

People’s Choice – Bill Webb, 1971 142GT (car # 175)

Highest Mileage – Vic Dres, 1988 740GLE (car #118) (900,000+ miles claimed)

Longest Distance Traveled – Vic Dres, 1988 740GLE (car #118) (drove from home in central Calif. to Lake Placid, NY for VCOA East Coast Meet, then directly drove to Lake Tahoe Meet (just under 10,000 miles!))

Golden Rod – Tim Otters, 1980 242T (car #149) (one of the most extensively modified Volvos ever, if you see this car you will remember it)

Road Warrior – Scott Prather, 1982 245DL (car #158) (drove to Meet from WA without incident, had spray boom at self-service car wash in Lake Tahoe fall on his car)

Best of Show – Stock (pre-1975) – Bill Webb, 1971 142GT (car # 175)

Best of Show – Stock (1975 & later) – Bill & Betty Britton, 2005 V50 T5 (car #107)

Best of Show – Modified (pre-1975) – Fran Gawronski, 1962 1800 (car #127)

Best of Show – Modified (1975 & later) – Ben Woodford, 1997 855 R (car #179)

Concours Field Captain

Jon Manji

Assistant Field Captains

Karl Grimm

Bob Venable

Bill Webb

Scorekeeper

Bill Webb

Concours Judges

Ken Baxley

Les Baxley

Ted Brough

Lee Cordner

Vic Dres

Mike Dudek

Peter Eulau

Roger Fritch

Don Gawronski

Karl Grimm

David Hunt

Ben Huntley

Larry Jackson

Concours Judges (continued)

Cameron Lovre

Jon Manji

George McDonald

Jim McDonald

Jerry Palfenier

Pat Priester

Amy Reece

Al Seliger

Scott Smith

Glenn Suneson

George Swift

Bob Venable

Steve Yabroff

C.J. Yother, Jr.

Alternate Concours Judges

Fred Gallaher

Patrick Gallaher

Billy Tave

Ted Wells

Autocross Results

Modified Class

1st Place – George Haigh 29.63 850R

2nd Place – John Pagel 29.89 740 Wagon

3rd Place – CJ Yother 30.42 855R

Stock Class

1st Place – Ben Huntley 31.90 850

2nd Place – Carl Hockett 32.12 1800 ES

3rd Place – Jon Vikander 32.36 X/C70

Additional Meet Staff

Registration: Joyce Roberts

Photographer: Julie Liest

Friday Night Entertainment: Scott Peper

Parking: Wally Russell

Saturday Night Speaker: Soren Johansson – Volvo Cars North America

Car Show: Jon Manji

Awards: Dave Barton

Autocross: Mike Denman

General Gofer: Lee Cordner

Meet Sponsors:

Volvo Cars North America

IPD

Ronal Wheels

Eurosports Tuning

Volvo of Orange County

Mothers Car Care Products

Stoner Car Care Products

Flying A Travel Plaza

[prasamin]

I'm sure most of you VCOA people got this email from Lee. I thought I'd post it here cuz it's hilarious! We're on fire guys! Note the part in bold below lol. Lee, we love you man, but the banter will continue!

Hi,

I’m completely recovered! The national meet was really great. I’m sorry it wasn’t a bit warmer, but it could have been worse. South Tahoe got 6” of snow on Tuesday morning. We got away with it, but not by much! Next year, a warm place in the summer.

I’m attaching a complete record of the results of the Car Show judging and the autocross.

Photos of the meet are displayed on the following websites

http://justjulz.photosite.com/2006VCOAWestCoastMeet Julie’s site – Meet photographer

http://www.volvoguy.us Billy Tave’s site

Also we’ll soon have some up on the chapter website

www.goldengatevcoa.org and the national site www.vcoa.org use the galleries tab.

There is also a forum on Volvospeed about the meet with photos… It contains some banter and interesting language, but if that doesn’t bother you, here you go… http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/Vcoa-Nation...eet-t61161.html and this one http://members13.clubphoto.com/ralph630329...383/guest.phtml

For those of you who won or placed in the autocross, Dave Barton took some very nice action shots. Your plaque with photo will be mailed tomorrow.

For those of you who placed in the Car Show, but did not pick up your plaque at the awards banquet, your award is in the mail tomorrow, too.

Hope you had a good time at the meet! See you next year if not before.

Lee

[Greenchunks]

Lol, banter and interesting language

[Spoony]

Lol, banter and interesting language

I prefer "colorful"

[Guest Guest]

this chubby dude with a yellow volvo showed up. we didn't really pay attention to it since it was completely stock.

the outcasts went on a drive while the older crowd stayed back and played bingo or something of that nature.....oh wait,

Come on Pras, be real. That chubby dude and a few of us stayed back to help a fellow member (Pat) out instead of abandoning him to go for a drive. Give him a little credit.

Glad to see there's some cool pic's up here though, and that Pat finally made it home again.

[Über855R]

Come on Pras, be real. That chubby dude and a few of us stayed back to help a fellow member (Pat) out instead of abandoning him to go for a drive. Give him a little credit.

Glad to see there's some cool pic's up here though, and that Pat finally made it home again.

I think its cool that Doug and a couple others helped Pat out. But in all fairness everyone should have gone on the drive and let Pat ride shotgun. Its not like he made it home without problems anyway what would a couple of hours made a difference.

Pat, what happened to the squeeze burger? I thought you were going to show up...