Plan_B Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Is the mod here semi-retired?She is busy gettin her hair did ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jena Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(Plan B @ Oct 27 2006, 02:04 AM) ←She is busy gettin her hair did Starfish,Is the title of this thread upsetting to you? Would you like me to change it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///RonalT5 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ten years ago Iraqi's weren't being kidnapped by terrorists, they were being kidnapped by baathist secret police. Any overt opposition to the party was typically whisked away in the middle of the night never to be seen or heard from again. Same stuff different day. Their may not have been IED's or militias, but Baathist Iraq was no paradise either.Saudi Arabia is our ally in the middle east. Hijackers may have come from there but they really pose no threat to us at all. Look at the way they fought to defend themselves during the first gulf war. in my humble opinion Iraq was a far greater threat as a nation whom had a history of trying to develop WMD, sanctions not working, and sanctions expiring. Iraq has been up and down. This ethnic militia / death squad I'm dumb needs to be squashed immediately. A sizable portion of the resistance in Iraq are not Iraqi's either. The Syrian and Iranian borders are far to pourus, maybe even worse than the US mexican border. I think they need to start putting some 24 hour air patrols on all the problem borders. Anything seen moving across a border, and not passing through an official border checkpoint gets blown the monkey up. stuff, leave the wreckage there so that would be insurgents know whats about to hit them.It's amazing the impression you get from watching CNN or reading the paper about what is happening over there. Personally, I've had the chance to interact with a wide range of Marines who have been over in the sandbox over the past few years. They usually have a far different tale to tell than what the news stories say. Fourth generation warefare, as we are currently engaged in, is quite difficult to win. The insurgency can win by not loosing, and we can lose by not winning. It will certainly be an uphill battle, but it is in no way unwinnable. You'll probably never hear of Hattin, or the success Marines have had in that town. If you care to read about that, search for USMC FMFM 1-A Draft "Fourth Generation War"fmfm stands for fleet Marine field manual - if you can't find it ill send it to you.Speaking in broader terms, I think the war on terror has largely been a success so far. No domestic attacks since 9/11. That works for me. We eliminated the taliban government which allowed / aided terrorist operations on its soil. There may still be some left, but when they come out to fight us, we kill them. Same thing happens in Iraq. Insurgents fight us, we kill them. I would much rather take the fight to our enemies in their playground than let them bring it here.Marines don't do dittly-squat. The Army takes the grunt, and my uncle is in the Army and served in Iraq for 2 years. I know how stuff is in that country and it cetainly isn't what you portray it to be, it is a mess and chaotic. Plus, when the Taliban attacked us, we should not have went into Iraq. And our starting point was that we were fighting terrorists, then how come he changed the topic to we are getting Sadam. He realized there was no point in being in Iraq, said it was mission accomplished, then went after Sadam on sketchy intelligence of nuclear weapons. The war is failing and we need to find a way to bring our troops home. That is all I care about, poke the country, bring our people home for god's sake!~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan_B Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) Please take the war talk to this thread.WAR THREAD Edited October 27, 2006 by Plan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC850T Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Marines don't do diddly squat. That is one of the most misinformed statements I've ever heard. Tell you what Marines do... They stack bodies. That's their job. First into the shit, and they've been doing it since 1775 . I take it you've never heard of Belleau woods, or Iwo Jima, Okinowa or maybe the Chosin Resivoir. Who's armour captured baghdad? Who was sent to clean house in Fallujah?It seems we are angering the mods so we can discuss this further in that war thread I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///RonalT5 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 ^^^I didn't mean in general, I am saying that the Army takes most of the casualties. Yes, the marines do a lot. I think it is very brave to join the army, just make sure it is a war worth fighting, which this is, but in the wrong place. And I agree with your last statement. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC850T Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The Army takes more casualties because they are a larger orginization. The Marine Corps is much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan_B Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Per Jena's approval, the next person that posts about war in this thread will be suspended for two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///RonalT5 Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(Plan B @ Oct 28 2006, 12:28 AM) ←Per Jena's approval, the next person that posts about war in this thread will be suspended for two days.Sorry Grant and Jena. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm200054 Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(Plan B @ Oct 28 2006, 12:28 AM) ←Per Jena's approval, the next person that posts about war in this thread will be suspended for two days.LAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan_B Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 --><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plan B @ Oct 28 2006, 12:28 AM) ←</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Per Jena's approval, the next person that posts about war in this thread will be suspended for two days.LAMEYes, yes you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
850RRR Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Grant thats all i have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan_B Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromtheshadows Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) [spose I had nothing to say... Edited November 4, 2006 by ashman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick. Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) great guy, makes me feel warm all over every time i encounter him.edit: seriously. Edited December 21, 2006 by 850Charisma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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