FredMc Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 that's funny. that's like a 30 year old urban myth. they have raved about this oil and Pennzoi dino on the thread I referenced previously. WWW. bobistheoilguy.com. Read it and come to your own conclusions. Not a 30 year old urban myth. I read the thread you referenced. May be the stupidist thread on oil I have read in quite sometime. Tufoil is teflon and proven to screw up your engine. Stay away from that. he mentions two other stupid things that are baseless. Oil addivitives are usually bad, and shouldn't be used. There is certainly enough additives in your motor oil that will protect well. I can't believe anyone would bite into what the guy that spells synthetic with and X is saying. Too funnyOh more comments from that classic thread... Rereading it, very entertaining. Sad but entertaining."""I use Amsoil Euro 5w30 and Tufoil engine additive. I switched my XC70 at 52k about three months ago when I purchased the car.It runs like a dream and MPG increased from 18.3 to 26. Not all synthetix are better than petrol oil. Avoid Pennzoil like the plague.Castrol Syntec is very good, but burns off easy. It cleans extremely well.I always recommend Amsoil and Tufoil. Amsoil was the first to sell automotive synthetix back in 1972. They know it better than anyone else.Tufoil holds the Guiness World record for being the slipperiest (sp?) substance known to man. In a test against 60 other oil additives in the four-ball wear test, all other products burned up into smoke under 6 minutes. Tufoil lasted 16 days. With synthetix, your main concern will shift to how good your filtration is, more so than oil longevity."""His mileage went up 18 to 26 ... impossible but hilariousHe uses a great oil like Amsoil and put in monkey dust "tufoil"... sad but hilariousHe still repeats the urban legend about Pennzoil. Slick 50 was all teflon based and also got sued for false advertizing just like the Tufoil people. No myth, fact. Slick had to change it's formula without teflon and it's claims.Syntec and other synthetic oils do not "clean" that's a myth unless it's a particular type of base oil. Redline may be that oil. Has to be a grade V base oil with Esters very rare now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 whats wrong with mobil 1 syn i never heard bad things about it. i heard it's the best syn out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillAileo Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 While I wouldn't label it the "best syn out there." there is nothing wrong with Mobil 1. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 which one is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmD Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Switched my 850 at almost 150K on the nose to 5W30 Mobil1 and haven't had any issues (knock on wood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 i know someone that has a 850 T-6 with 77k miles and he going to sell it for 5k OBO i might think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWalker Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Oh more comments from that classic thread... Rereading it, very entertaining. Sad but entertaining."""I use Amsoil Euro 5w30 and Tufoil engine additive. I switched my XC70 at 52k about three months ago when I purchased the car.It runs like a dream and MPG increased from 18.3 to 26. Not all synthetix are better than petrol oil. Avoid Pennzoil like the plague.Castrol Syntec is very good, but burns off easy. It cleans extremely well.I always recommend Amsoil and Tufoil. Amsoil was the first to sell automotive synthetix back in 1972. They know it better than anyone else.Tufoil holds the Guiness World record for being the slipperiest (sp?) substance known to man. In a test against 60 other oil additives in the four-ball wear test, all other products burned up into smoke under 6 minutes. Tufoil lasted 16 days. With synthetix, your main concern will shift to how good your filtration is, more so than oil longevity."""His mileage went up 18 to 26 ... impossible but hilariousHe uses a great oil like Amsoil and put in monkey dust "tufoil"... sad but hilariousHe still repeats the urban legend about Pennzoil. Slick 50 was all teflon based and also got sued for false advertizing just like the Tufoil people. No myth, fact. Slick had to change it's formula without teflon and it's claims.Syntec and other synthetic oils do not "clean" that's a myth unless it's a particular type of base oil. Redline may be that oil. Has to be a grade V base oil with Esters very rare now.that's funny. that's like a 30 year old urban myth. they have raved about this oil and Pennzoi dino on the thread I referenced previously. WWW. bobistheoilguy.com. Read it and come to your own conclusions. Not a 30 year old urban myth. I read the thread you referenced. May be the stupidist thread on oil I have read in quite sometime. Tufoil is teflon and proven to screw up your engine. Stay away from that. he mentions two other stupid things that are baseless. Oil addivitives are usually bad, and shouldn't be used. There is certainly enough additives in your motor oil that will protect well. I can't believe anyone would bite into what the guy that spells synthetic with and X is saying. Too funnyThank you for your derisive comments.I am that person that you are bashing. I am a member of this site, and you, sir, are violating the rules of engagement of which you agreed to adhere.I am not a liar. What good would it do for me to lie about very common products?I told the truth about the economy increases I achieved with the products that you proudly have bashed here.I am not a stupid person. Should you have ever read a dictionary, you'd understand that old English variants used the "X" to signify pluralilty. Pehaps a little creative writing on my part, perhaps a little ignorance on your part.I have absolutely nothing to hide, and would be willing to meet any criteria you establish to demonstrate that I have told you the truth.Tufoil is not Teflon, but is based on the same root element as Teflon, PTFE, which technically is not teflon.I've been using Tufoil for the last seven years with no problems, increased gas mileage, smoother running engine, easier starting, etc., etc..Here is something to look at: PTFEMy phone nymber is 760.608.3543 should you like to discuss anything with me personally.EDIT: One more thing. My wife's 2001 V70 yeilded 19.4 MPG when I first purchased it fifteen months ago. It's running the same products I have in mine and has consistently yeilded, as per the computer, 27 MPG. The car runs very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredMc Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 You are welcome.I don't care what you think on your own time. Saying you got a milage increase of 30% by using "synthetix" is impossible. Anyone that deals in this subject knows that the most one can get is possibly 1%. Hogwash to 30% So you are saying if you went back to Valvoline dino oil you would suffer 6 to 8 miles per gallon. That's too funny. Dreamland.Saying Pennzoil is not good oil, hogwash, prove it. There are UOA on the oil website I referred that prove my point. Where is yours?Pennzoil Plat is a great synthetic. Prove otherwise.Using oil additives is garbage and serves no purpose. Does more harm than good. Tufoil is laughed at on the oil website as are most additives to oil. Exactly what do you gain.And why in the .... would I call you. I call friends. I don't call you.Mythbusterprovide facts not old wives tales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWalker Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 You are welcome.I don't care what you think on your own time. Saying you got a milage increase of 30% by using "synthetix" is impossible. Anyone that deals in this subject knows that the most one can get is possibly 1%. Hogwash to 30% So you are saying if you went back to Valvoline dino oil you would suffer 6 to 8 miles per gallon. That's too funny. Dreamland.Saying Pennzoil is not good oil, hogwash, prove it. There are UOA on the oil website I referred that prove my point. Where is yours?Pennzoil Plat is a great synthetic. Prove otherwise.Using oil additives is garbage and serves no purpose. Does more harm than good. Tufoil is laughed at on the oil website as are most additives to oil. Exactly what do you gain.And why in the .... would I call you. I call friends. I don't call you.Mythbusterprovide facts not old wives tales.My God, you are an idiot. Mythbuster? Pat yourself on the back for being a fearful twit.If Pennzoil has improved their synthetic line, then good on them. I used it years ago, and found it to be lacking. I'm not aware of any pennzoil myths, as you say.My on-board computer told me 18.3 MPG when I bought the car. I still do not know what the proper MPG should be for this model, perhaps 18.3 was very low, and the things I did helped bring it up to normal. I can't believe that I actually am conversing with a person like yourself. You are dispicable and incapable of ingesting ideas that you didn't concieve.Cheers, you pathetic prick.By the way, I posted my phone number because I KNEW you didn't have the balls to confront me beyond this little web page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 850T-5 Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 1. Switching to synthetic is fine, just be careful about going with too low of viscosity (if your climate allows it) if you are worried about leaks. Synthetic natraually flows better so running too thin may accelerate leaks. Also keep the PCV system clean. I've ran synthetic motor oil in my 250K 740, 147K 850T, no problem using 10w40 Castrol Syntec. The rear mains in each seem to seep in each just a little bit but it's negligable, just a little buildup, not any steady dripping or anything. 2. Volvo uses Castrol as a factory fill in and is ONLY what I use. It's always worked great. Engine runs even quieter than when I ran Mobil1, same viscosity, which sold me on it over Mobil1.3. Agreed that using oil additives is NOT good. ONLY additives I use is right before an oil change for the purpose of an engine flush such as Valvoline's Pyroil Engine Flush or adding a little Marvel Mystery Oil. I would never use any other additive, and the stuff with Teflon or PTFE it is especially bad for turbos. 4. Sorry but Pennzoil is GARBAGE, and no one's going to change change how "I" personally feel about it. Yes the synthetic, might be ok. It would also be fine if it did the job as well as other brands of conventional oil too. Motor oil is motor oil but some stuff is better and there's definately better than Penzoil (in my opinion). Exxon Mobil, Shell, Castrol and Valvoline are all commonly used as a factory fill in for practically all automobile manufacturers. NOT Penzoil, probably for a reason. In Amsoil's tests Pennzoil, from what I remember was by far the worst in almost all tests. Conventional Pennzoil has been known to cake up and become pretty nasty clay like sludge inside engines after regular use. Penzoil is cheap sh** Jiffy Lube and other quickly lube places push because it's crap and they can get it cheap. This is where many american's get their oil changed and probably a major contributing factory to the sludge epedemic with so many engines. My step father has also seen engines torn down with regular penzoil oil changes and told me they all looked like sh** inside when he worked as a mechanic for a while. Regardless of whether or not it's "ok" to use, why even risk it where there's guaranteed, known good alternatives that are around the same price or not much more expensive.On October 1, 2002, the acquisition of Pennzoil-Quaker State Company by Shell Oil Company, an affiliate of the Royal Dutch/Shell Group of Companies, was completed. In 2003, Pennzoil-Quaker State Company began doing business as SOPUS Products (which is Shell). Obviously this might mean that Pennzoil products are much better than they used to be, but I'm not going to be testing this theory on any of my Volvos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWalker Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 1. 3. Agreed that using oil additives is NOT good. ONLY additives I use is right before an oil change for the purpose of an engine flush such as Valvoline's Pyroil Engine Flush or adding a little Marvel Mystery Oil. I would never use any other additive, and the stuff with Teflon or PTFE it is especially bad for turbos.You sound like you know exactly what you're talking about, and I believe that you are firmly convinced that oil additives are not good. I have to agree with you, save for one additive: Tufoil, as I stated earlier.I've been using Tufoil exclusively since, if I remember correctly, spring of 1999.I've had no problems with it so far. In fact, Tufoil has worked very well for me, and I cannot conscientiously own a car without installing Tufoil now. I've even used it in my gearboxes with astounding success. That's like taking 300 lbs out of the trunk, and makes shifting smooth as silk. I read everywhere how bad additives are for engines. If Tufoil is a scam product, and will only harm an engine, why has it not harmed the seven vehicles I've installed it in since 1999? Seems like something very bad should have happened by now. But nothing bad has happened. Only good. I tried out Bitron once last year in my Isuzu Trooper. I could tell I had installed it, but I cannot say whether it can last as long as the oil change interval of 7500 miles. The engine had a "warmed up" quality at start up. I'd say it's a quality lubricant, but who's to say how durable it is. So I stick with Tufoil. Tufoil's cheaper, too.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredMc Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 My God, you are an idiot. Mythbuster? Pat yourself on the back for being a fearful twit.If Pennzoil has improved their synthetic line, then good on them. I used it years ago, and found it to be lacking. I'm not aware of any pennzoil myths, as you say.My on-board computer told me 18.3 MPG when I bought the car. I still do not know what the proper MPG should be for this model, perhaps 18.3 was very low, and the things I did helped bring it up to normal. I can't believe that I actually am conversing with a person like yourself. You are dispicable and incapable of ingesting ideas that you didn't concieve.Cheers, you pathetic prick.By the way, I posted my phone number because I KNEW you didn't have the balls to confront me beyond this little web page. Laughing too much out loud to embarass you further. LOLalso by the way... did you write this??? http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/sho...ge=0#Post800953Anyone saying that an oil change gets you 8 MPG well... That kind of sums up your intelligence or lack thereof. I think for kicks I will post your claims on the oil website referenced. Want to bet that you get rudely slammed? Gee I wonder?you will find out I treated your ignorance with more kindness than those wildmen will. Make sure you give your comments to your post on www.bobistheoilguy.com. I bet that 50 guys will chime in ... in under 15 minutes and make you sorry you ever made such stupid statements.Okay lets follow the progress on your comments about Tufoil, Pennzoil and your MPG increase claim. I am nice compared to these guys. Give it a couple of minutes and it will fill up.http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/sho...ge=0#Post802894 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWalker Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 You sad sad little man. Laughing too much out loud to embarass you further. LOLalso by the way... did you write this??? http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/sho...ge=0#Post800953Anyone saying that an oil change gets you 8 MPG well... That kind of sums up your intelligence or lack thereof. I think for kicks I will post your claims on the oil website referenced. Want to bet that you get rudely slammed? Gee I wonder?you will find out I treated your ignorance with more kindness than those wildmen will. Make sure you give your comments to your post on www.bobistheoilguy.com. I bet that 50 guys will chime in ... in under 15 minutes and make you sorry you ever made such stupid statements.Damn, you are one bull-headed son of a oh yeah!.Nope, I'm not in that link of yours.You sure changed the stuff out of this post of yours. Why?Anyway, you accused me of back-pedaling about mileage, I think. You've since changed it.I simply tried to clarify that changing my oil was ONE thing I did that improved my mileage. Again, the combination is as follows:1. Amsoil 5W40 Euro2. Tufoil3. K&N air filter4. 40 psi in tires5. And I just remembered: Redline fuel injector cleaner (S1 or something like that) at the beginning of the tripThat's all I did. On an 1800 mile trip after the changes, the best calculator reading I got was at the end of the trip: miles driven/gallons filled=30.5 mpg.The computer said 27 mpg. Since the trip the computer has slid downward slightly to around 26.2 or so.I removed the K&N filter because of some strong points other Volvo XC owners made in another forum. Since that change, mileage has dropped to 24.9. I expect it to keep dropping and level off at 24 mpg. This is city driving I'm doing with about a 20 minute freeway commute per day.I was looking at that Bobistheoilguy site today, and I plan on describing these same details to those people, too.When I bought the car, the computer said 18.3 mpg. It stayed that way until I made the changes.I used this same combination on many vehicles, and I've always achieved considerable mileage gains.You mentioned facts in your original post above. I'm not sure what facts yo'd like me to display. I'm only describing the results of the things that I have done.I'm making no claims about single products, only the combination of these products in a car with 52k miles.And no, I don't subscribe to Tornado swirley device used to rip people off of about $75 a pop. I kow a guy who uses one, and he swears by it. Many tests prove them to be completely useless.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWalker Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Laughing too much out loud to embarass you further. LOLalso by the way... did you write this??? http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/sho...ge=0#Post800953Anyone saying that an oil change gets you 8 MPG well... That kind of sums up your intelligence or lack thereof. I think for kicks I will post your claims on the oil website referenced. Want to bet that you get rudely slammed? Gee I wonder?you will find out I treated your ignorance with more kindness than those wildmen will. Make sure you give your comments to your post on www.bobistheoilguy.com. I bet that 50 guys will chime in ... in under 15 minutes and make you sorry you ever made such stupid statements.Okay lets follow the progress on your comments about Tufoil, Pennzoil and your MPG increase claim. I am nice compared to these guys. Give it a couple of minutes and it will fill up.http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/sho...ge=0#Post802894I just wanted to quote your ever-changing post so that when you decide to pull the plug, I'll have proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredMc Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I just wanted to quote your ever-changing post so that when you decide to pull the plug, I'll have proof.Right on..."""I use Amsoil Euro 5w30 and Tufoil engine additive. I switched my XC70 at 52k about three months ago when I purchased the car.It runs like a dream and MPG increased from 18.3 to 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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