ultra_runner Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Maybe Chuck can enlighten us a tad here. If the sleeves are easily crackable (..is that a word..), what has AtSpeed done to their GT car blocks to hold 600HP? I think there was a thread deep in the bowels of the board about forged steel sleeves...Any enlightenment?Scott C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Luckily those things are easier to fix!But then you still give up .2L displacement :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narxs70 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Maybe Chuck can enlighten us a tad here. If the sleeves are easily crackable (..is that a word..), what has AtSpeed done to their GT car blocks to hold 600HP? I think there was a thread deep in the bowels of the board about forged steel sleeves...Any enlightenment?Scott C.they have probably sealed or what ever you do to the top of the block that eliminates the cylinder movement at high RPMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Maybe Chuck can enlighten us a tad here. If the sleeves are easily crackable (..is that a word..), what has AtSpeed done to their GT car blocks to hold 600HP? I think there was a thread deep in the bowels of the board about forged steel sleeves...Any enlightenment?Scott C.I used forged sleeves. As for Atspeed I cannot say. If I had to, guess , I would say they are not making 600hp. I would also guess there are some other tricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Ranff Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I used forged sleeves. As for Atspeed I cannot say. If I had to, guess , I would say they are not making 600hp. I would also guess there are some other tricks.Charles for the win. The race car is light as a feather and there a rules that keep it around 450-500 anyway. A little bird told me they are using the stock cylinders at leastwith the Cosworth perhaps also the Mahle. Keep in mind they do something like 25 lapsand they run on the very edge of rich and so every once in a while fire comes out. Sometimes they get fire spitting out of the side many times per lap. It is not lean like a guy with a bad tune plus then also NOS (not good ideaat all for these OIO cylindersDo I want sleeves like Charles yes, do I have them no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightInAVolvo Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Ouch.... Well I knew that seeing a volvo in a mag as the featured tune was too good to be true.... now when people find out that it poped in a short time.... haha i agre you gota pay to play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt b Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 For those of you not familiar with this vehicle I urge you to first do some basic research either here on on the web about it.For those too lazy to search, but still curious about the whole thing, here's an article about it. European Car ArticleThat's a sad ending for that car. I'm still gathering info on what's involved with a 're-sleeve' of such a block, I'll edit this post accordingly if I find enough adequate info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 For those too lazy to search, but still curious about the whole thing, here's an article about it. European Car ArticleThat's a sad ending for that car. I'm still gathering info on what's involved with a 're-sleeve' of such a block, I'll edit this post accordingly if I find enough adequate info.The Evolve car was not sleeved. Thats the OEM block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkbrick Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I've seen this car.Man, I would extremly disappointed to pay all that money for such crappy craftsmanship. IMHOFYI the wheels are rubbing the paint of the calipers also. Think about whats happening there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H. Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Here's the ECU wiring: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///RonalT5 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) I know Matt lives in PA, don't know where the car is though.Lying in a Volvo dealership in Phily, last time I heard from my friend, who knows Matt.~Mike Edited January 21, 2007 by EvolveT5R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Luckily those things are easier to fix!lolHere's the ECU wiring:i dont actually know if thats the wiring or not but when your building a car that hasnt been built before you wont make a perfect system only to change and splice several times, like protype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachRat Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 And the quality of workmanship. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I used forged sleeves. As for Atspeed I cannot say. If I had to, guess , I would say they are not making 600hp. I would also guess there are some other tricks.Was waiting for that to come up. Chuck taught me all about the beauty of closed-deck! Too bad a model company that does performance engineering like Evolve didn't think of it, though. How much was this car?Edit: When you look at the article, all you see is pictures of the styling. If they were truly proud of the engineering they should have shown under the hood instead of a snapshot of the stupid hood leuvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Was waiting for that to come up. Chuck taught me all about the beauty of closed-deck! Too bad a model company that does performance engineering like Evolve didn't think of it, though. How much was this car?Edit: When you look at the article, all you see is pictures of the styling. If they were truly proud of the engineering they should have shown under the hood instead of a snapshot of the stupid hood leuvers.Hood louvers/vent is still there. I do not think it cracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hood louvers/vent is still there. I do not think it cracked.everytime i see yer profile pic i see a truck with a cannon on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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