vman98 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I have a 2000 S40 with a P0014 code. Camshaft actuator position advanced (Re: out of time) Will a software update solve the problem?? or do the cams have to be timed manualy? The car also starts hard after it has been driven about 7 - 10 miles. When it's cold it starts great, but warm it starts hard. Any ideas?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEKVOLVO Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I have a 2000 S40 with a P0014 code. Camshaft actuator position advanced (Re: out of time) Will a software update solve the problem?? or do the cams have to be timed manualy? The car also starts hard after it has been driven about 7 - 10 miles. When it's cold it starts great, but warm it starts hard. Any ideas??The 40's have been very prone to sludging problems. In the last month or so i have replaced 3 CVVT hubs after first cleaning the solenoid valve, then replacing the solenoid valve. The last car i did, i cleaned the valve and all the oil ports, and installed the updated seal with screen, only to have the car return with the screen clogged shut with sludgy debris. I have seen this problem even on low mile cars, i have to fix one next week with 40,000 miles. The CVVT hub in tis car will lock in a rest position when the car is shut down, often the codes are set when whe cmp finds that the hub is ont in the propper position on start up. It's possible that your cam is stuck in a position perfect for cold start ups, and not so good for hot starts. Oil quality, level, and airrated oil will also cause CVVT faults. The S/W upgrade is supposed to perform a more aggressive activation of the CVVT solenoid, which is supposed to overcome a dirty or restricted system, but i haven't seen many 40's fixed without part replacement. Well, i haven't seen any fixed for that matter. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman98 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 The 40's have been very prone to sludging problems. In the last month or so i have replaced 3 CVVT hubs after first cleaning the solenoid valve, then replacing the solenoid valve. The last car i did, i cleaned the valve and all the oil ports, and installed the updated seal with screen, only to have the car return with the screen clogged shut with sludgy debris. I have seen this problem even on low mile cars, i have to fix one next week with 40,000 miles. The CVVT hub in tis car will lock in a rest position when the car is shut down, often the codes are set when whe cmp finds that the hub is ont in the propper position on start up. It's possible that your cam is stuck in a position perfect for cold start ups, and not so good for hot starts. Oil quality, level, and airrated oil will also cause CVVT faults. The S/W upgrade is supposed to perform a more aggressive activation of the CVVT solenoid, which is supposed to overcome a dirty or restricted system, but i haven't seen many 40's fixed without part replacement. Well, i haven't seen any fixed for that matter. Best of luck.Is the CVVT solenoid located under the black plastic cover by the spark plugs?? I have a device that is located on the left side of the head that sit on the exhuast valve camshaft. Can I just remove the 10mm bolts and clean the area, and the valve?? Is there another part to be replaced that requires the camshafts to be pulled?? I am mechanicly able along with some common sence, but without a service book I am working blind. If I remove it, and it is spring loaded or could I mess up the timing that is already screwed a bit now. This car likes to challange me. Open to any ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEKVOLVO Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Is the CVVT solenoid located under the black plastic cover by the spark plugs?? I have a device that is located on the left side of the head that sit on the exhuast valve camshaft. Can I just remove the 10mm bolts and clean the area, and the valve?? Is there another part to be replaced that requires the camshafts to be pulled?? I am mechanicly able along with some common sence, but without a service book I am working blind. If I remove it, and it is spring loaded or could I mess up the timing that is already screwed a bit now. This car likes to challange me. Open to any ideas.Only the exhaust cam is cvvt. Yes the valve is under the cover, 4 10mm or 8mm head bolts. Be sure to have a new seal for it if you remove it. You can take it off all you want, it won't mess with anything. You can test it by putting 12v on one pin and ground the other. Use compressed air to confirm operation and clean valve. The hub on the other hand is bolted to the end of the cam and is controled by that valve. It will indeed mess up timing if you play with it unless you have the propper cam locking tools. It is not spring loaded like other volvo models, it locks in rest position, but it is not keyed or splined to the cam, so if you take it off in can be installed in an infinite position. Don't mess with the hub unless you know what you are doing. unless someone has been messing with it, the marks should line up propperly. Make sure there is not an excessive amount of tension on the belt/tensioner, that can also cause cvvt codes. PS if you take the valve off, you can blow out the oil feed ports too, just take off the oil cap to release pressure. Good luck, cleaning never seems to fix anything for me, but it can't hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theForgottenone Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Only the exhaust cam is cvvt. Yes the valve is under the cover, 4 10mm or 8mm head bolts. Be sure to have a new seal for it if you remove it. You can take it off all you want, it won't mess with anything. You can test it by putting 12v on one pin and ground the other. Use compressed air to confirm operation and clean valve. The hub on the other hand is bolted to the end of the cam and is controled by that valve. It will indeed mess up timing if you play with it unless you have the propper cam locking tools. It is not spring loaded like other volvo models, it locks in rest position, but it is not keyed or splined to the cam, so if you take it off in can be installed in an infinite position. Don't mess with the hub unless you know what you are doing. unless someone has been messing with it, the marks should line up propperly. Make sure there is not an excessive amount of tension on the belt/tensioner, that can also cause cvvt codes. PS if you take the valve off, you can blow out the oil feed ports too, just take off the oil cap to release pressure. Good luck, cleaning never seems to fix anything for me, but it can't hurt!So on a normal working S40, can we just remove the VVT solenoid and clean it? In addition, a new seal is needed if we do remove it right? just checking. Btw, any part# for the seal as I'm lazy to search on Vadis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEKVOLVO Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 So on a normal working S40, can we just remove the VVT solenoid and clean it? In addition, a new seal is needed if we do remove it right? just checking. Btw, any part# for the seal as I'm lazy to search on Vadis.the seal is p/n 30731212. you can take the valve off all you like, it won't hurt anything. I just did 2 40 hub and valve replacements today. both for 60 and 61 codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman98 Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hi Tekvolvo, I picked up a new CVVT solenoid & gasket $79.40 total with my discount. (I know the parts mngr.) Part#9202388(list $88.27 sold for $70.62 & 30731212 (list $5.36 sold for $4.29.) I noticed that the gasket has a screen in it. The old one does not. New and improved?? I figured I would start here and hope that it doesn't need a hub. The car has 89,000 miles on it. What is the life duration for the CVVT cam Hub unit. any idea on the cost. I wish you lived in Vermont I would pay you gladly to fix it and give the money to the person that earned it not the dealer. Dealer pays you $10-20 per hour but charges cust $85 - 105 per hour Not right at all( oh I forgot OVERHEAD). can any shop change the hub if needed or just volvo dealer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman98 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Well I installed the new solenoid, and gasket with the screen, but no luck. The light went out lastnight but came back on today. I spoke to my local repair shop (not the dealer) and he said he can do the repair , but he is having a hard time finding the cam hub true disciption. What is the true name for the CVVT hub?? thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbergtsi Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 you need special tools to do the hub...$500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman98 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 The cvvt hub is better known as the Exhuast cam gear($101.96 at the dealer). I spoke to my selling used car dealer today, and told them that the Volvo dealer calls the part I need the camshaft gear.. (exhuast side). He told me in return that the camshaft "GEAR" is covered by the extended warranty(YES!!!) that I paid for.($985.00 1 yr or 12,000 miles) The repair will cost between $500 - $650 dollars. I will keep you posted wish me luck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theForgottenone Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 The cvvt hub is better known as the Exhuast cam gear($101.96 at the dealer). I spoke to my selling used car dealer today, and told them that the Volvo dealer calls the part I need the camshaft gear.. (exhuast side). He told me in return that the camshaft "GEAR" is covered by the extended warranty(YES!!!) that I paid for.($985.00 1 yr or 12,000 miles) The repair will cost between $500 - $650 dollars. I will keep you posted wish me luck!!!When all fixed and done, post a picture of the old part as I want to see. Thanksps: If it's exhaust cam gear, that meant just the cam gear on the exhaust side? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman98 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Yes the gear on the exhaust side(gear close to the fire wall pass.- side) The cvvt solenoid sets right above just to the right of the cam gear. Look carefull when you pull the timing cover away you will see the hub that is bolted to the gear. Looks like a clutch assembly. I doubt I will have the old parts to show since the dealer will send them to the warranty company. But if I do get the I will show the. I plan on having the t- belt changed and the tension and ideal pully changed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theForgottenone Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Yes the gear on the exhaust side(gear close to the fire wall pass.- side) The cvvt solenoid sets right above just to the right of the cam gear. Look carefull when you pull the timing cover away you will see the hub that is bolted to the gear. Looks like a clutch assembly. I doubt I will have the old parts to show since the dealer will send them to the warranty company. But if I do get the I will show the. I plan on having the t- belt changed and the tension and ideal pully changed too.Did you know that if you plan on upgrading the car quite a bit, change to N.A cam will also yield top end for the S40 too? (IIRC, only work on T4 engine though )NA cam on S40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' T5M Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 If the engine is sludged upp this is only a temp fix. Te engine has to be torn down and cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman98 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 If the engine is sludged upp this is only a temp fix. Te engine has to be torn down and cleaned.It has a very clean engine, we just had that check by the dealer. The dealer had the gear instock, very popular part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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