Sanctions, Snatching, Or Summer?

[alden]

Just curious what the consensus is here?

Why am I paying $2.70 today, when I paid about $.30 less two weeks ago?

assumed arguments -

Iranian sanctions

Iranian kidnapping of British sailors

Palestinian/Israeli issues

Egypt throwing a fit over Iraq

broken refineries

Summer coming

Any speculative causes that I'm missing? and what, logically can be done to resolve any of this?

If I had the spare time and the spare cash I'd be buying veggie oil from costco at under $2 a gallon and filling up an old caddy pickup, but that's neither here nor there. ;)

Edited March 31, 2007 by alden

[starfish]

Just curious what the consensus is here?

Why am I paying $2.70 today, when I paid about $.30 less two weeks ago?

Any speculative causes that I'm missing? and what, logically can be done to resolve any of this?

This is a supply and demand issue. Too much demand and a tight supply controlled by mind numb middle eastern whack jobs and their oil cartel. Combine that with the political miscalculations of former President Bill Clinton and the Democratic party members of the US Senate that killed ANWR oil and gas drilling. Add on Jimmy Carter and his love of communist dictators in South America and further turn the world's oil suppliers against us.

These congressional liberal morons made us energy dependant on desert rat infested oil rich countries that use the high prices to prepare military actions of war or nuclear bomb threats against the west as our politicians today act like sheep.

So don't be too upset at $2.70 cuz were headed toward $6-8/gal sooner than you think. Baaaaa, baaaaaaa, baaaaaa to Hillary you liberal sheepole!

Send Jimmy Carter to Iran in exchange for the British sailors being held hostage's release, that might help lower your gas price?

[TheDude]

This is a supply and demand issue. Too much demand and a tight supply controlled by mind numb middle eastern whack jobs and their oil cartel. Combine that with the political miscalculations of former President Bill Clinton and the Democratic party members of the US Senate that killed ANWR oil and gas drilling. Add on Jimmy Carter and his love of communist dictators in South America and further turn the world's oil suppliers against us.

These congressional liberal morons made us energy dependant on desert rat infested oil rich countries that use the high prices to prepare military actions of war or nuclear bomb threats against the west as our politicians today act like sheep.

So don't be too upset at $2.70 cuz were headed toward $6-8/gal sooner than you think. Baaaaa, baaaaaaa, baaaaaa to Hillary you liberal sheepole!

Send Jimmy Carter to Iran in exchange for the British sailors being held hostage's release, that might help lower your gas price?

lol

[caliwagon]

I wish I paid $2.70! Last night I filled up the Civic with regular @ $3.29 per gallon. Welcome to California.

[Kashif]

They have it, we need it. That's why and collusion amonst the oil companies.

Plus fish, this sharp spike started after the most recent war.

But you are most likely going to ramble on and on about the democrats or the Arabs or some other sh!t that you or I can't control.

I would just ride your bike. Good for the body, zero emissions, who cares what gas costs.

Edited April 1, 2007 by Kashif

[starfish]

There has been no collusion amongst the oil companies to raise oil prices, congress has investigated that claim forever and never turned up anything. The demagoguery by liberals against oil companies making a profit by sticking it to Americans is ridiculous. The oil companies work totally at the mercy of the entire American political system, that means you and me included.

The spike in prices can not solely be placed on the war either. The problem is a greater world demand and the fact that oil exploration and recovery is more costly. As I reported a long time ago in this forum, no oil refinery has been built in this country since the 1970's and many have closed since then. Due to many city/state regulations and demands there are well over 100 different blends of gas mandated by law. Each oil refinery is operating at near 100% capacity. Manufacturing at these high capacities require freguent plant shutdowns for maintainance. When this happens local quantities of special blends can become in short supply as the manufacturing is rerouted and pump prices reflect supply. There is no shortage of $70/bl oil, there is though a shortage of $10/bl oil. When Clinton decided to close off known oil reserves in Alaska one of his comments was why bother, it will take us at least 10 years to get the oil out of there anyway?

Finally you say that you and I cannot control oil costs. What current democratic presidential candidate is in favor of the US exploring for new gas and oil reserves to become less dependant on middle east oil and ease pricing? Methanol, electrics, hybrids, biofuels and conservation is nothing but a short term political patch for a growing problem in an expanding world economy. When the Arab oil producing countries formed OPEC they took out competion by regulating the flow out the tap. Most of these countries produce as much as they can to acquire funds to run their individual governments. When OPEC decides to increase or cut back production only one country has the power to do that, Saudi Arabia. If you want to help control costs, support candidates who are in favor of removing restrictions to increasing domestic supply.

[Zappo]

But you are most likely going to ramble on and on about the democrats or the Arabs or some other sh!t that you or I can't control.

Of course he will. He is the model ultra conservative. Point the blame on someone else, never at themselves. Bush has ran his whole presidency that way.

There is a difference between "profits" and "record profits". I don't believe there is collusion between the oil companies. I believe they all see the same opportunity to make more money.

[Gray850]

Supply and demand pretty much. Weather's better, people are driving their cars sends the prices up.

[starfish]

Of course he will. He is the model ultra conservative. Point the blame on someone else, never at themselves. Bush has ran his whole presidency that way.

There is a difference between "profits" and "record profits". I don't believe there is collusion between the oil companies. I believe they all see the same opportunity to make more money.

There you go again with the "ultra" label. President Bush may be a Republican party member but his record sure ain't being a conservative. If you leftist liberals want to decrease oil company profits why are YOU not supporting an increase in domestic oil production?

If you leftist liberals are worried that an entity is removing too much money from the consumers pocket, why do YOU not support a tax cut?

Is there a Democratic presidential candidate who supports removing or reducing government restrictions and increasing our domestic oil drilling and refining production?

Which Democratic presidential candidates has laid out a plan to deal with any of the current energy production problems?

What is the long term policy to increasie the affordable energy supply needed to drive our economy forward into the future as a first rate global economic leader by any Democrat party member or leader?

While you quibble over semantics of political jargon I won't hold my breath waiting for any effort of a legitimate attempt to answer these questions.

[Kashif]

But you are most likely going to ramble on and on about the democrats or the Arabs or some other sh!t that you or I can't control.

There has been no collusion amongst the oil companies to raise oil prices, congress has investigated that claim forever and never turned up anything. The demagoguery by liberals against oil companies making a profit by sticking it to Americans is ridiculous. The oil companies work totally at the mercy of the entire American political system, that means you and me included.

The spike in prices can not solely be placed on the war either. The problem is a greater world demand and the fact that oil exploration and recovery is more costly. As I reported a long time ago in this forum, no oil refinery has been built in this country since the 1970's and many have closed since then. Due to many city/state regulations and demands there are well over 100 different blends of gas mandated by law. Each oil refinery is operating at near 100% capacity. Manufacturing at these high capacities require freguent plant shutdowns for maintainance. When this happens local quantities of special blends can become in short supply as the manufacturing is rerouted and pump prices reflect supply. There is no shortage of $70/bl oil, there is though a shortage of $10/bl oil. When Clinton decided to close off known oil reserves in Alaska one of his comments was why bother, it will take us at least 10 years to get the oil out of there anyway?

Finally you say that you and I cannot control oil costs. What current democratic presidential candidate is in favor of the US exploring for new gas and oil reserves to become less dependant on middle east oil and ease pricing? Methanol, electrics, hybrids, biofuels and conservation is nothing but a short term political patch for a growing problem in an expanding world economy. When the Arab oil producing countries formed OPEC they took out competion by regulating the flow out the tap. Most of these countries produce as much as they can to acquire funds to run their individual governments. When OPEC decides to increase or cut back production only one country has the power to do that, Saudi Arabia. If you want to help control costs, support candidates who are in favor of removing restrictions to increasing domestic supply.

There you go again with the "ultra" label. President Bush may be a Republican party member but his record sure ain't being a conservative. If you leftist liberals want to decrease oil company profits why are YOU not supporting an increase in domestic oil production?

If you leftist liberals are worried that an entity is removing too much money from the consumers pocket, why do YOU not support a tax cut?

Is there a Democratic presidential candidate who supports removing or reducing government restrictions and increasing our domestic oil drilling and refining production?

Which Democratic presidential candidates has laid out a plan to deal with any of the current energy production problems?

What is the long term policy to increasie the affordable energy supply needed to drive our economy forward into the future as a first rate global economic leader by any Democrat party member or leader?

While you quibble over semantics of political jargon I won't hold my breath waiting for any effort of a legitimate attempt to answer these questions.

I rest my case, plus I don't even read your rants, it not worth my time.

[RAzOR]

That's why and collusion amonst the oil companies.

+1

Collusion all the way. Evidence = Record profits. Fish, Bush is an oil-man. No sincere Renewable energy efforts, no sincere electric vehicle support, no support for even plug-in hybrids (which is the beginning of the end for big oil).

[Kashif]

+1

Collusion all the way. Evidence = Record profits. Fish, Bush is an oil-man. No sincere Renewable energy efforts, no sincere electric vehicle support, no support for even plug-in hybrids (which is the beginning of the end for big oil).

Oh My God

Razor and I actually Agree on something!!!! Lol :)

Edited April 2, 2007 by Kashif

[Zappo]

Oh My God

Razor and I actually Agree on something!!!! Lol

It is amazing. :)

[RAzOR]

The End of Days approaches!!!

[Zappo]

The End of Days approaches!!!

Freaky avatar.