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ok this is pretty cool

http://www.flamestower.com/product/

I'm going camping next week.....ordered

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I'm going camping next week.....ordered

Unless your going on some back country backpacking trip, I don't really see the need for it anyways. Looks nice and light, but not necessary if your camping in a campground you park at.

This is something I saw and really like. http://www.biolitestove.com/campstove/camp-overview/features/

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Unless I'm doing some deep woods backpacking, I never keep my phone on. The whole point of being out in the wilderness (to me) is to get away from everything else in life and look at the world from a different perspective. I sometimes hate how reliant people are on their phones.

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I live in the wilderness, so its nice to have my phone on me for taking pictures, gps, and music. I like that BioLite because even when the power is out and I don't want to run the genny I can have a way to keep my phone charged for some of the mentioned reasons, plus still being able to check VS if I can get a signal (which is rare)

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Unless I'm doing some deep woods backpacking, I never keep my phone on. The whole point of being out in the wilderness (to me) is to get away from everything else in life and look at the world from a different perspective. I sometimes hate how reliant people are on their phones.

I was actually thinking more for people who are in the backwoods and could charge a GPS

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Unless I'm doing some deep woods backpacking

If you still have cell service, you're doing it wrong :P

I'm far from a heavy phone user. But I don't get the idea of turning a phone off for the sake of it unless it's like a business phone that won't stop ringing. Taking a single call, or answering an email, or browsing the web for a few minutes doesn't really take away from the experience. It's all down to self control. Don't glue your phone to your hands.

Speaking of outdoor gizmos, anyone have any experience with the SPOT products? http://www.findmespot.com

I really like the idea, but the whole service plan thing reminds me of cellphone plans from 2001. We do all this cool stuff (extra fees may apply). I want something that tracks me so when I bust my face on a rock people can find me. And their site says it isn't reliable in very dense woods. So, red wood forest dense? Or typical New England woods dense? Looks like it costs $300 total for the first year + $150/year after.

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If you still have cell service, you're doing it wrong :P

I'm far from a heavy phone user. But I don't get the idea of turning a phone off for the sake of it unless it's like a business phone that won't stop ringing. Taking a single call, or answering an email, or browsing the web for a few minutes doesn't really take away from the experience. It's all down to self control. Don't glue your phone to your hands.

Speaking of outdoor gizmos, anyone have any experience with the SPOT products? http://www.findmespot.com

I really like the idea, but the whole service plan thing reminds me of cellphone plans from 2001. We do all this cool stuff (extra fees may apply). I want something that tracks me so when I bust my face on a rock people can find me. And their site says it isn't reliable in very dense woods. So, red wood forest dense? Or typical New England woods dense? Looks like it costs $300 total for the first year + $150/year after.

I'm going to assume that since it is satellite based, you need a fairly unobstructed view of the sky, so redwood forests are going to be its Achilles' heel.

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Speaking of outdoor gizmos, anyone have any experience with the SPOT products? http://www.findmespot.com

I really like the idea, but the whole service plan thing reminds me of cellphone plans from 2001. We do all this cool stuff (extra fees may apply). I want something that tracks me so when I bust my face on a rock people can find me. And their site says it isn't reliable in very dense woods. So, red wood forest dense? Or typical New England woods dense? Looks like it costs $300 total for the first year + $150/year after.

We just got these for the fire dept. Each crew leader has one attached to their webgear. It has proven to be pretty useful in entrapment situations and firefighter down scenarios. Although they don't work everywhere, they do give SAR an idea of the last known location. I have never had to rely on it and hope I never will, but it is kinda a piece of mind. Between the SPOTs and our handheld GPS devices, given you keep updating your location, it makes you feel a bit more safer out there.

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I'm going to assume that since it is satellite based, you need a fairly unobstructed view of the sky, so redwood forests are going to be its Achilles' heel.

I understand that. I'm wondering what level of density really impacts it. For example, a lot of NE woods have tree cover, but it's small branches extending from a trunk, and the leaves. So while it may obstruct the sunlight, I'm wondering if it would heavily effect the GPS.
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It seems the trees aren't really the problem, but deep canyons and ravines do cause a loss of signal. And of course in those situations our radios don't work well, so when coming into these areas, we always alert the higher ups that we will be out of range for a estimated amount of time. We have not used them much, but seems they are quite reliable really.

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