Brad850 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Can you give any detail on that brake master cylinder(s)? Woops nevermind Edited July 20, 2015 by B850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 We had a meeting at the Ring yesterday. A nice opportunity to take the Polestar 60 mainly for photos and the sticker.. Photo's succeeded,Earned it's sticker,The weather was mixed dry and sunny and rain from time to time. Took the P for a lap while it was still dry. The P did great. The driver a bit less. Haven't driven in a while and the P took some getting used to. It is a heavy car. Flippers. Traction control / anti skid turned out to be a bit to protective losing a lot of power. Maybe I should have turned it off before the lap. Switching it off is buried in the Sensus menu and trouble started on the latter part of the track so no use to go through the pages at that point. All in all a great fun day with a bit lesser ending but it's up to the person in charge to report about that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiel Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 All in all a great fun day with a bit lesser ending but it's up to the person in charge to report about that. That would be me. Did a lot of laps on the Ring, and number 104 was probably the last lap I ever did on the Ring. Never say never but the way the Nurburgring charges the people who crash is absolutely insane. Had a massive slide after 2 kilometers, maybe less, went with 2 wheels in the wet grass, 2 on the slippery tarmac, got it back in line and the car kicked back and went for another spin. Crossed the track (which isn't wide at that point) and ended up wrecking the whole right hand side of the car.The marshall/safety car (Streckensicherung...try pronounce that..) was quick on scene, took my license and insurance papers. Few minutes later he told me to go to the office, asked the guy how much the would charge for the minor damage on the guardrail...$540. Ok. Drove back with Johann on the backseat since the passenger side door wouldn't open. They charged me $790 for the cratches on the Armco, one hour labour and some other b/s. They kept the ' damaged' armco btw.Then the car. It's fixable, steering is a bit off, a tierod got bent. Needs a new front fender and a lot of body work. Doors a repairable (is that a word? ), rear quarter panel needs a tiny bit of work. Thank god that the rear panel only has a small ding, and that my xenon headlight (took me 5 years to find them, really rare in NL) is in one piece. Got back the car back to Area 55, with 60mph max. Local body shop is going to take care of it in a few months time. No rush. There's a white old sedan as a winterbeater...and that winter comes early.Will post pictures later. There is footage on the GoPro, but I'm not ready to share my flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I never knew you were charged for damages to the track. Is it not a "public" road? I guess it is a toll road, thus "privately" funded?Sorry to hear about your car Emeil, at least the nut behind the wheel didn't get damaged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockpartie Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I never knew you were charged for damages to the track. Is it not a "public" road? I guess it is a toll road, thus "privately" funded?More or less correct. Toll road accessible by the public, all normal rules and laws are still in effect on the ring. However because you aren't racing and merely enjoying a lovely drive through the countryside your insurance has to pay out for 3rd party damage if you are at fault. Exceptions apply, some insurers specifically exclude the Nürburgring and you should always check before crashing. Sorry that you redesigned your car Emiel.If you think the old armco is worth something deduct that from whatever they bill you. I think it's called 'Restwert' and they are not allowed to profit from your mishap. Plus if the old armco was already predamaged/rusted/whatever they can only demand the amount of money it would take to get it to pre "Emiel was here" condition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesoam Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 sorry to hear Emiel...all i kept thinking about when i was driving the race rental was the 8k EURO insurance deposit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German850R Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 sorry to hear Emiel...all i kept thinking about when i was driving the race rental was the 8k EURO insurance deposit Which kind of defeats the purpose of a "race" rental, doesn't it? But unfortunately there are reasons for the high deposits given the large amount of idiotic and avoidable accidents sometimes.Sorry for Emiel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 This was also an avoidable accident.. Should have waited till the track dried up ..Emiel didn't run out of talent but out of space and as it appears only by a couple of mm. I looked it up, I think you US people say hindsight is 20/20. It hurts though . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German850R Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yeah, with avoidable I meant something like: first ever lap, high ambitions, lack of talent and crash in Brünnchen ;).This is clearly not the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCviggen Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 number 104 was probably the last lap I ever did on the Ring. Sorry buddy But you'll be back. Eventually ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiel Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Sorry buddy But you'll be back. Eventually ;-) I'll be back...in the passenger seat. Thanks for the kind words guys. I'm 'mature' enough to say that it was my fault, I decided that I wanted to do a lap in these conditions and I was well aware of the risk. I just ran out of road...and talent.I consider myself lucky. I still got to drive the car home, with damage but in one piece. We where unhurt, that's the most important thing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshV70 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Glad to see you're ok, Emiel. It sucks, but it's just a car at the end of the day. Do us all a favor and get back out there so we can live vicariously through you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Do us all a favor and get back out there so we can live vicariously through you! He doesn't know it yet but he has to. Before the end of the year to be more precise. This because he will be needed as either a navigator or a driver.. In the last month there has been a very impulsive development at Area 34. Januari this year I received the Polestar V60 as a replacement for the Lexus IS-F. Both being powerful cars I never took the Lexus to the Ring but being the Volvo nut I am I decided to take the Polestar for at least one lap mainly as mentioned for the photo and the sticker. There are also a few other reasons for probably not taking this car to the Ring anymore. Never say never but this isn't a real track tool. It is a great daily driver and long distance cruiser and for those reasons I am very happy with the car which btw exceeded my expectations.During the time I drove the Lexus('s) I also drove a Focus RS500 with the intention to use it as a track car. For reasons it didn't happen as often as I wanted and added to that I thought the car was a bit to special to modify for more dedicated track usage. In the end I used that car more or less as a daily driver next to the Lexus but the Lexus was more fun.. so after three years I decided to trade this car for a C70 Convertible also as a gesture to my wife. She had been talking about a convertible for years.. And a gesture it turned out to be given that I haven't had much seat time in that car since. The C70 did 15K km in little over one and a half year while I have only driven 22K km in the RS500 in little over three years including a trip to the UK and to Sweden with this car. Last year I took the C70 to the Ring because I was "between" cars and did a sight seeing lap together with Emiel and Travis. In total I think I didn't drive it for more than 1000 km. In the mean time I had a second hand S60R also with the idea to use it as a track car on occasion. Drove one lap at the Ring and at the Bilsterberg circuit and sold the car earlier this year mainly because there was no real click... And it needed a lot of maintenance and even more to keep it going. Another thing was that it gave me a sense of "been there, done that". Time moves on and modern cars are prove of that. Nowadays we have flippers on the steering wheel and cars do a lot thinking themselves. Even Volvo went that route with the nasty side effect of dumping everything more than 4 cylinders. I thought it was a shame to ditch the 5 cylinder. Still think that way. On the other hand in the last year or so I also started to appreciate what Volvo is doing. The Polestar is still a 6 cylinder but I have driven newer models either as a loaner car from the dealer or just because the dealer offered me a car to test drive. In my country we have had the Ford era with most of the engine configurations being 4 cylinder Ford or PSA engine's already and they didn't do to bad. We have driven a 1.6 Diesel C30 for a couple of years ourselves and although not a performance car by any means it always was a pleasure to drive. Now there are the new VEA, or in the US called DrivE, engine's with the 8 speed AT. I have driven a couple of models equipped with these engine's and was surprised how they handled. Last week we traded the wife's XC60 for a new XC60 4 cylinder T5 AT8 including flippers.. Don't know how it will perform in the long run but the outgoing XC60, 2.0 5 cylinder diesel MT FWD, never missed a beat in the 4 years of ownership. The 8 speed gearbox is fun. Not the old Volvo slushy AT behaviour and in flipper mode it shifts faster compared to the Polestar which in all honesty doesn't do all that bad.After negotiating the trade of the XC60 about two months ago I learned a thing or two about the new engine and gearbox configurations and while I still think it is a shame Volvo isn't offering a manual transmission in the higher powered gasoline versions anymore I also thought, like mentioned earlier, that time moves on and most car manufacturers take that same route. DSG or twin clutch or whatever it is called. It was also during that time that Volvo introduced a limited edition model for Europe called the Volvo V40 Carbon Edition. At first I didn't think much about it until I received an email from Polestar introducing somewhat disappointing tunes for the new VEA engine's. Doing some more reading on the subject lead to that same V40 Carbon Edition again and this is where impulsiveness showed it's ugly head. .. Next day I visited the Volvo dealer and twenty minutes I had bought a car unseen. Some time September I will become the owner of a V40 Carbon Edition.. 100 car's are destined for the Netherlands. I thought production was set for after the holidays but to my surprise there was a diesel version on display at the Volvo Experience event I attended late last month,And another one arrived at a dealer nearby last week,The first pictured car is a D4, the second a T5. The car I opted for is a 2.0-4 T5 AT8version. Added optional flippers, Polestar tuning, adjustable steering force and the tinted rear windows. The stock power of the T5 is 350Nm and 245 hp. The Polestar tune will bring it to 400Nm and 253 hp. Biggest gain will be mid range, roughly 25 hp. Added to that Polestar promises optimised shifting behaviour. Car comes with 19" wheels, 235/35-19 tires. Carbon roof and mirror covers. Gloss Black accents and window trim. Slightly more lowered suspension and a rear spoiler. All other the car is mostly R-design. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Nice V40! A Volvo rep I talked to a couple weeks ago at a local car show did say that with the purchase of Polestar, the intention was to introduce more actual performance oriented models, rather than the cosmetic R designs... We'll have to see if that actually happens over here. Shame we don't have the range of models / engines that are offered in EU & other markets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Some progress on the track car,Installed the engine and gearbox. As mentioned the gearbox comes out of SD11 as does the flywheel. Used the 850R pressure plate which has been used in SD11 with the S60R friction for a while. Still had had the new 850R friction which came with the pressure plate. Replaced the rear main seal while at it. Also exchanged the P2 exhaust manifold for an 850 GLT NA manifold. After the engine was in I stripped the loom which came with the engine and mocked up the new routing of the loom. Decided not to use drive by wire throttle so a few more wires need to be added for TPS, MAP, IAT and ICV. Will be using a Link standalone and want to try to get the intake VVT working. Intake manifold will probably an 850 turbo manifold with a GLT throttle body for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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