Boomin850 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 So basically I'm painting my other car black. I would like to do a satin black finish, and if not I'll just go with a flat black. The question is really only for people that HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE with this type of paint job. I've started reading about the paint and how it's a complete pita to take care of...shows every fingerprint, nick, etc. The few people that claim to be painters say that you can wax it and it will only add 5% sheen to the paint since it already has a dulling agent incorporated. How do you take care of a paint job like this? Is it really even worth it?Also, I've been hearing that a cheap paint job is cool as long as you do the prep, and do it well. This isn't going to be any type of show car, just a daily driver. Im not going to go spend big bucks on the job...just want it one color. The car is extremely straight and I think it'll really look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DouginDenver Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 So basically I'm painting my other car black. I would like to do a satin black finish, and if not I'll just go with a flat black. The question is really only for people that HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE with this type of paint job. I've started reading about the paint and how it's a complete pita to take care of...shows every fingerprint, nick, etc. The few people that claim to be painters say that you can wax it and it will only add 5% sheen to the paint since it already has a dulling agent incorporated. How do you take care of a paint job like this? Is it really even worth it?Also, I've been hearing that a cheap paint job is cool as long as you do the prep, and do it well. This isn't going to be any type of show car, just a daily driver. Im not going to go spend big bucks on the job...just want it one color. The car is extremely straight and I think it'll really look good.Never painted a car flat or satin black, but I have some experience with that sort of thing on other objects. I think the main problem with it on an object as big as a car, especially in black - and on an object that is subjected to all sorts of elements and random abuses, is that you can't really restore the finish because it is sort of the "opposite" of a normal finish. What I mean by that is this - on normal car paint you want it shiny and smooth. So if you get a small abrasion or small scratch you can easily rub and buff until it's shiny and smooth. Once you have shined it, it will match the rest of the car. In other words, smooth is smooth. So you can always repair small areas. But anything with a dulling agent tends to work the opposite. Instead of smooth, the paint is microscopically "rough". Tiny abrasions tend to smooth it. So you end up with little shiny spots. But the problem is that you cannot easly duplicate the orignal roughness. Any rubbing just tends to shine the spot more. Any effort to abrade it and it won't duplicate the orginal dullness. So while all smoothness is the same, all roughness is not, if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Makes sense to me...but at the same time it's not really a show car or anything so small scratches or whatever I probably won't even worry about. I mean I'm not going to spend more than $500 max for paint...and I'll do all the prep myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Seems like a bad idea - you're asking for trouble.Why would you want flat black? It's going to look like one of those tempos from RoboCop :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Seems like a bad idea - you're asking for trouble.Why would you want flat black? It's going to look like one of those tempos from RoboCop Meh because I feel like it. Shit, the engine bay is going to be neon pink too. Oh and if you think Im joking...I'll post pics as soon as it's done. It's mostly just to piss people off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtrooper1 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 if you want a "flat" kind of color, and a durable finish, you should "paint" it with black truck bed liner. you wouldn't have to worry about small dings and scratches with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Just paint it and wet sand it. If you do not re-polish it it will look flat. I painted more cars than I can count over the years and dull is never a good idea. All the corners and edges will shine as they wear. It looks like the fake suade in the Rs with enough time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yea, Maybe I'll just go the super cheap way and rattle can it...I mean I really don't care so why pay a bunch of money on painting it. Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exexpat Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Sorry I didn't respond to your PM earlier. I can't wait to see it, you will be a hero among gothic children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBoy8 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Meh because I feel like it. stuff, the engine bay is going to be neon pink too. Oh and if you think Im joking...I'll post pics as soon as it's done. It's mostly just to piss people offYou know, to be honest, I think that would look awesome . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Sorry I didn't respond to your PM earlier. I can't wait to see it, you will be a hero among gothic children!Ha ha no worries. I know people are busy so I don't sweat it. Hey, at least I'm keeping the trim its original shiny color right ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumanbmx Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 What car is it going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermy Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 totally unrelated, but we took my friend's rattle-canned civic through a no-touch automatic carwash while he was away on vacation, needless to say the end result was priceless.back on topic, i know a lot of people with satin paint jobs and although they give the appearance that your car is ratty, it really takes more effort than its worth to keep them looking semi-decent. its ironic in a way that you have to work so hard to get your car to look like a beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exexpat Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 totally unrelated, but we took my friend's rattle-canned civic through a no-touch automatic carwash while he was away on vacation, needless to say the end result was priceless.back on topic, i know a lot of people with satin paint jobs and although they give the appearance that your car is ratty, it really takes more effort than its worth to keep them looking semi-decent. its ironic in a way that you have to work so hard to get your car to look like a beater.True. Chalk that one up with people like my step-brother that spend up to 90 minutes each morning after a shower to get their hair to look like they have messy bed-head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 After talking to some old school hot rodders I've been instructed to go pick up some automotive trim paint because of its ability to resist weathering. I'll go pick up the paint within the next coupla days and get to the prep work. What car is it going on?The car will be my '81 242. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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